Sallins pay parking

NB1 · 23-07-2007, 13:53

How do IE expect their "customers" to make alternative arrangements should the prospect of paying to park their car on top of the already hefty cost of using the train ???

Derek Wheeler · 23-07-2007, 14:27

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Originally Posted by NB1

How do IE expect their "customers" to make alternative arrangements should the prospect of paying to park their car on top of the already hefty cost of using the train ???

They don't care. Furthermore NASRUG appear to be in favour of it and the reason why is a conflict of interest. But thats their bag.

P11 policy on this issue has been developing over the last few months and we have flagged this in local media. As Mark has correctly pointed out, we believe the introduction of pay parking is counterproductive to promoting the use of rail transport for daily commutes. The issue of subsidised "local" transport to integrate with rail stations now needs to be examined in an urgent manner. Park and Ride is failing, due to poorly planned housing, a car dependent culture and the impossible provision of land to accomodate parking facilities. The real solution lies in expanding the public transport option. That should begin at local level.

2Funki4Wheelz · 23-07-2007, 15:35

I remember when pay parking was being touted to Portarlington - it was in response to crime/vandalism levels and overcrowding - the IE stance was basically if you wanted a bigger & safer (cctv) car park you were going to have to pay for it.

People also asked about the possibility of adding the car park fare to your rail season ticket to make it cheaper, but with that level of complication the IE guy's eyes glazed over.

Thomas J Stamp · 23-07-2007, 16:28

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and overcrowding

A novel idea. Charge a fortune to stop you traveling. Who needs passengers anyway?

Colm Donoghue · 23-07-2007, 21:19

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Originally Posted by 2Funki4Wheelz

I remember when pay parking was being touted to Portarlington - it was in response to crime/vandalism levels and overcrowding - the IE stance was basically if you wanted a bigger & safer (cctv) car park you were going to have to pay for it.

People also asked about the possibility of adding the car park fare to your rail season ticket to make it cheaper, but with that level of complication the IE guy's eyes glazed over.

Ah Integrated ticketing. It'll be here by 2014 ses the minister for transport.
Last year the Minister for transport said it'd be here this year...

CSL · 24-07-2007, 11:38

to ask the actual question : is Sallins gone pay parking ? what are the daily charges ? Is CCTV installed and is there a security presence ?

Mark Gleeson · 24-07-2007, 12:13

No security presence
The CCTV probably isn't monitored and probably has huge gaps in coverage, CCTV elsewhere hasn't proven to be much use
Sallins of course is unstaffed most of the time

Prices
2 euro a day / 5 euro a week

Despite the face the IE T & C's allow for a parking ticket no integrated ticket is being offered

Thomas J Stamp · 24-07-2007, 12:13

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Originally Posted by colmd

Ah Integrated ticketing. It'll be here by 2014 ses the minister for transport.
Last year the Minister for transport said it'd be here this year...

No, that is integrated ticketing twixt Luas, DART, and Intercity and buses and things like that.

This is totally different. Maybe 2020 for this.

It should be there right now in the Park and Ride at the Red Cow.

Colm Donoghue · 25-07-2007, 22:16

You're right, Tim Gaston of the rpa explained this to me over a year ago.

You have introduced smart cards for Luas but one cannot pay at Luas
carparks with these.

The existing Luas scheme will be replaced when the city-wide scheme is
introduced so RPA has decided not to add car parking to the existing
scheme.

Surely this little bit of integration could be achieved easily?
Was this considered by the rpa?
Why was it not done?

To achieve integration of car parking the existing software would have
to be modified and new equipment would have to be installed in the car
parks. The car park element would ideally include a barrier type
operation which is different to the platform validators used in the tram
system. The current car park equipment is not set up to read smart
cards and it would be quite expensive to modify them, especially if the
smart cards are to be replaced in 2 years.

He seems to have missed the point that the parking system was introduced after the luas started up....

23-07-2007, 15:35	#3
2Funki4Wheelz Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Portarlington Posts: 397	I remember when pay parking was being touted to Portarlington - it was in response to crime/vandalism levels and overcrowding - the IE stance was basically if you wanted a bigger & safer (cctv) car park you were going to have to pay for it. People also asked about the possibility of adding the car park fare to your rail season ticket to make it cheaper, but with that level of complication the IE guy's eyes glazed over. __________________ Customer Service costs nothing...

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23-07-2007, 13:53	#1
NB1 Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36	How do IE expect their "customers" to make alternative arrangements should the prospect of paying to park their car on top of the already hefty cost of using the train ???

24-07-2007, 11:38	#6
CSL Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 378	to ask the actual question : is Sallins gone pay parking ? what are the daily charges ? Is CCTV installed and is there a security presence ?

24-07-2007, 12:13	#7
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	No security presence The CCTV probably isn't monitored and probably has huge gaps in coverage, CCTV elsewhere hasn't proven to be much use Sallins of course is unstaffed most of the time Prices 2 euro a day / 5 euro a week Despite the face the IE T & C's allow for a parking ticket no integrated ticket is being offered

25-07-2007, 22:16	#9
Colm Donoghue Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 873	You're right, Tim Gaston of the rpa explained this to me over a year ago. You have introduced smart cards for Luas but one cannot pay at Luas carparks with these. The existing Luas scheme will be replaced when the city-wide scheme is introduced so RPA has decided not to add car parking to the existing scheme. Surely this little bit of integration could be achieved easily? Was this considered by the rpa? Why was it not done? To achieve integration of car parking the existing software would have to be modified and new equipment would have to be installed in the car parks. The car park element would ideally include a barrier type operation which is different to the platform validators used in the tram system. The current car park equipment is not set up to read smart cards and it would be quite expensive to modify them, especially if the smart cards are to be replaced in 2 years. He seems to have missed the point that the parking system was introduced after the luas started up....