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Need I even comment on this article?? Wasters |
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![]() It could be more stupid Indo reporting trainee drivers spend weeks on end sitting in the cab doing nothing, most of the training program is about learning the line and its features, the trainees are in fact doing something productive
This is standard practice the world over accept in Ireland a driver has to know nearly even single piece of track which takes time |
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![]() The Indo article is in fact true.
P11 has learned today that a senior IE manager has introduced a driver training programme that now takes 48 weeks as opposed to the usual 52 weeks. (standard practice in the UK apparently)It also includes a position called "leading Driver". This is a position where an existing driver becomes responsible for training and must do the paperwork on the trainee. Drivers selected for this position were originally offered an additional €10 per day by IE. They refused this and looked for €20 per day. Mediation followed and a figure of €13.50 was arrived at. After tax, it won't amount to much anyway. Trainees were in fact signing on to work and sitting in a cab, beside a driver, long after they should have been cleared to drive. It has been claimed that up to €400,000 was spent on salaries to drivers that didn't actually drive. Last edited by Derek Wheeler : 18-07-2006 at 20:40. |
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![]() I've got a copy of the training schedule. The current New Deal program is 62 weeks in length, however 9.5 weeks are guards training. There was the "47 week" proposal which was not implemented at the time
There is 16 weeks of second man operation on top of 16 weeks shunting (or 9 weeks secondman and 7 shunting). The union agreeed in 2000 to the fact the second man would drive under supervision of the driver. Note they signed up to this in 2000 At this point it should be noted all locomotives are dual control so they can be driven from either the left or right seat so the supervising driver still has full control at all times Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 18-07-2006 at 21:06. |
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![]() Well obviously the 47 or 48 week proposal is now on the table. Standard in the UK and Mark, you know who's pushing it through. He wasn't with the company in 2000.
Forget 6 year old documents. This company operates outside of accountability and transparency and underwent a serious management purge in 2004. |
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![]() HQ had signed up for 47 weeks it was local management which retained the longer period, of course it is local management who certify the drivers
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