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![]() From irishrail.ie
Unofficial Industrial Action Concluded The unofficial industrial action by train drivers that has lead to serious service disruptions in services in the South and West since Monday has concluded. The majority of services will operate as timetabled today although there will be some services which will be disrupted. Iarnród Éireann would like to apologise to all customers affected. |
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![]() Striking train drivers are returning to work today after a deal was reached with Iarnród Éireann late last night. ireland.com
The company said the majority of trains will operate on time today although there will be some disruption as services get back to normal. The unofficial action lead to severe disruption to services on Monday and yesterday. There were no trains between Heuston Station in Dublin and Cork, Galway or Westport, while only one train ran between Dublin and Limerick. Only the Waterford service from Heuston was operating to a near-normal level. A deal was reached after 14 hours of talks. The intensive efforts to resolve the dispute, assisted by industrial relations consultant Phil Flynn, continued late last night. Mr Flynn was engaged in meetings in Dublin with senior officials of the two unions representing drivers, Siptu and the National Bus and Rail Union. The locomotive drivers' committee, which comprises drivers from both unions, was also involved in the discussions. The strike began on Monday after two Cork-based drivers refused to operate a new high-tech train that the company had planned to bring into service on the Cork-Dublin route. The action spread yesterday with drivers based in Athlone and Galway joining those in Dublin, Cork and Limerick who had stopped working on Monday in support of their two colleagues. It is understood drivers will not be driving the new trains when they return to work today. © The Irish Times/ireland.com |
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![]() The agreement trashed out will have the new trains in service by Monday next
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http://www.unison.ie/irish_independe...issue_id=14046 Even as a commuter with no engineering background that sounds like they're pretty useless to me. |
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![]() IE's spokesman on morning Ireland (didnt catch his name) said straight out that the CDE sets will run on Monday.
So, all of this was for nothing. These are the same trains which according to some people are "unsafe" and could kill people (honestly, cant wait to get back onto that line) however it seems that the union feels quite safe about them goin on track next monday. This is Wednesday. Last Wednesday the Cork drivers were asked to do a few aclimatisation runs for the intro of the carriages on the Monday. They refused. They refused to work any trains. Their mates in the Core said the same. Now, this Wednesday suddenly they can in the exact time frame as last week. Safety wasnt an issue, never was, that was bull, and they and thier supporters know it. Here I'm preaching to the converted but no-one who supports the unions has explained to me why this happend. I'll now ask how come they can now drive these trains when last week they couldntt, when they are being given the exact same run-in time as last week. As for the passangers, ie you and me........ well, we just pawns arent we? |
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![]() John Keenan of IE gave the pitch on Morning Ireland
IE will issue a statement later with the details of which services the CDE set will operate on Monday, given its still in Cork its most likely to be the 5:30 am ex Cork as was planned last Monday |
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![]() That 5.30am train would be the one I would normally catch at Portlaoise.
![]() For the ignorant what does CDE stand for again? Obviously not Cork-Dublin Express. |
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![]() Perhaps CAF should sue them for tarnishing their reputation and saying that one of their products is dangerous when, it clearly isn't!
If anything the cow incident proves that the CDE's DVT is very sturdy indeed. RIP Daisy! |
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![]() The train already has its certification, there was as always a few issues but they are sorted thats months ago now.
Ok I've heard it rides like a pig but thats not the same as dangerous IE staff have been traveling around in it and if its safe enough for them to travel its clearly not dangerous Poor Daisy met a quick end, I'm now told there is a CCTV camera in the pointy end could make interesting viewing. The front end suffered some damage partly since the obstacle deflector, buffers and coupling are designed to fail in a controlled manner upon impact to absorb the energy |
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![]() what sweetener was offered to the unions ?
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![]() I doubt it rides that badly to be quite honest. MK3 ride is often viewed with rose tinted glasses. It's smooth but lets be objective when this train starts running and not listen out for every creek and sway just because it's new.
The CAF 29000s have different bogies and suspension to this fleet and suffer vibration due to under-floor engines etc. I'll reserve my judgement on the "CityLink / CDE / MK4 / Pointy Green thing" until I actually board one and go to Cork. |
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![]() The bad news is the CDE bogies are more or less the same as the 29000 ones, same primary and secondard suspension but longer wheelbase but with a yaw damper added to stabilise matters, key concern is corners
I've been told by several different people of varying grades in IE that the ride is not up to standard. I've heard talk of remedial works to the air suspension to sort this out. I don't know what the problem is to be exact First real test is Sallins where the track is quite poor, the Curragh curves are perfect in a MK3 apart from the bump on the Kildare side. I've got a list of comments I jotted down on a MK3 trip a while back so a reasonable comparision is on We will have to wait to find out for sure |
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![]() If the Sligo line is anything to go by, ditching Marks carraiges for anything anyway resembling a 29K is a fiasco waiting to happen.
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![]() Well the government have been great in all of this. Yesterday, after we issued a PR, and about 36 hours after the strike, Cullen came out and said: "Strikin's bad. Mmmkay."
Today Cowen has backed up Cullen's sentiments and said "It is bad, I hope it doesn't happen again." Truely excellent work by our government officials. It is good to see they saw a problem with IE and they commented on it. Next time I write bad code that causes problems for a customer, I am going to follow our government's example and say "That code is bad." then I will follow Cullen's approach and hide under a pile of coats and hope everything turns out ok. It seems to have worked for him. |
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![]() Word is coming through that a deal has been done and we are all go for Monday, no one saying anything about what was conceded if anything at all
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