People not using ticket machines

PaulM · 26-04-2006, 15:17

As we all know, one of my main gripes of using the DART is at busy stations the hardworking ticket checking staff tend to be too busy talking to actually check tickets / open gates. We will also know that I complain that these same hardworking folk tend to allow people through the gate, often the flash of a ticket or calculator can be enough to allow entry, this in turn causes delays for people trying to leave the station.

Yesterday I noticed at Pearse St. that the ticketing staff were having their usual difficulty doing their job as they had to talk about the match that would be on that evening. As usual several people flashed tickets / paper clips at them and they were too distracted to see what was shown never mind checking people exiting (how much do IE lose on fair evasion each year?).

It occurred to me that legally you must have a valid ticket to board the Platform. I then realised that for a ticket to be valid, it must be validated which none of these tickets / pens were. This makes the ticket checkers accomplices to crimes which they do nothing to prevent (tell people to use the machines). Since they are complicit in all of this illegal activity, should they not have to pay several hundred thousand euro in fines for mass fair evasion?

Mark Gleeson · 26-04-2006, 15:26

Technically you don't need a ticket to stand on the platform

PaulM · 26-04-2006, 15:32

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Technically you don't need a ticket to stand on the platform

I was told by a guy in Sydney parade you do. Either way I doubt these people are going there for fun. My point still stands, the hardworking dedicated staff at Pearse st are assisiting mass crime.

philip · 26-04-2006, 17:26

No Paul, you've got it all wrong. IE don't lose any money to fare evasion because they have turnstiles

The taxpayer has to make up the difference for all this evasion.

PaulM · 26-04-2006, 20:13

I'd say if I assisted 100+ people per day through Pearse without valid tickets I'd get in a lot of trouble. Who wants to bring IE to court for wasting tax payer money?

James Shields · 26-04-2006, 23:53

Okay, but if I get on a train at Broombridge, what do I do?

PaulM · 27-04-2006, 09:44

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Originally Posted by lostcarpark

Okay, but if I get on a train at Broombridge, what do I do?

In that case there is no option to get a ticket so I think it is legal. In Pearse st. they are allowing people to board trains with invalid tickets.

26-04-2006, 15:17	#1
PaulM Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 826	People not using ticket machines As we all know, one of my main gripes of using the DART is at busy stations the hardworking ticket checking staff tend to be too busy talking to actually check tickets / open gates. We will also know that I complain that these same hardworking folk tend to allow people through the gate, often the flash of a ticket or calculator can be enough to allow entry, this in turn causes delays for people trying to leave the station. Yesterday I noticed at Pearse St. that the ticketing staff were having their usual difficulty doing their job as they had to talk about the match that would be on that evening. As usual several people flashed tickets / paper clips at them and they were too distracted to see what was shown never mind checking people exiting (how much do IE lose on fair evasion each year?). It occurred to me that legally you must have a valid ticket to board the Platform. I then realised that for a ticket to be valid, it must be validated which none of these tickets / pens were. This makes the ticket checkers accomplices to crimes which they do nothing to prevent (tell people to use the machines). Since they are complicit in all of this illegal activity, should they not have to pay several hundred thousand euro in fines for mass fair evasion?

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26-04-2006, 15:26	#2
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Technically you don't need a ticket to stand on the platform

26-04-2006, 17:26	#4
philip Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 632	No Paul, you've got it all wrong. IE don't lose any money to fare evasion because they have turnstiles The taxpayer has to make up the difference for all this evasion.

26-04-2006, 20:13	#5
PaulM Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 826	I'd say if I assisted 100+ people per day through Pearse without valid tickets I'd get in a lot of trouble. Who wants to bring IE to court for wasting tax payer money?

26-04-2006, 23:53	#6
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	Okay, but if I get on a train at Broombridge, what do I do?