Taxsaver price increases on the way

ThomasJ · 25-09-2008, 09:45

Just seen this on the boards website: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showp...25&postcount=1

Quote:

Iarnród Éireann Commuter Ticket Price Increase 1 November 2008

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Brace yourselves for this news, which comes from a letter from IÉ to Taxsaver Scheme administrators.

Basically all Short Hop Monthly and Annual Tickets are to increase in price significantly from 1 November 2008, due to a combination of increased costs and in an effort to have a consistent pricing structure for the Short Hop zone and for longer distance commuters.

The increases are:

Short Hop Rail Only Tickets
Annual Commuter Rail/DART
Current Price EUR 890
New Price EUR 1,030

Monthly Inner Short Hop Zone
Current Price EUR 90
New Price EUR 103

Short Hop Rail & Bus Tickets
Annual Short Hop Bus/Rail
Current Price EUR 1,035
New Price EUR 1,190

Short Hop Rail & LUAS Tickets
Annual Commuter Rail/DART and LUAS
Current Price EUR 1,250
New Price EUR 1,435

Monthly Short Hop Rail and LUAS
Current Price EUR 125
New Price EUR 143

Short Hop Rail, Bus & LUAS Tickets
Annual Commuter Rail/DART, Bus and LUAS
Current Price EUR 1,520
New Price EUR 1,750

Annual Commuter Rail, DART, Feeder Bus and LUAS Heuston-Connolly
Current Price EUR 1,090
New Price EUR 1,230

Monthly Short Hop Rail, Bus and LUAS
Current Price EUR 152
New Price EUR 175

The letter goes on to say that any other changes to Taxsaver prices will be advised in due course.

Trampas · 25-09-2008, 14:22

Short Hop Rail Only Tickets
Annual Commuter Rail/DART
Current Price EUR 890
New Price EUR 1,030

That its a 15% (I think) rise

Only went up this year.

How do they get away with it?

grainne whale · 25-09-2008, 15:27

Actually, it wont be worth my while getting the Short Hop Taxsaver ticket, I've just totted it up, there will be no benefit as I don't travel enough. It will be back to the daily ticket for me.

Mark Gleeson · 25-09-2008, 15:43

Daily tickets unlikely to increase by the same amount as the DoT has control over the prices normally.

ThomasJ · 25-09-2008, 15:57

My Annual short hop bus and rail pass I got set me back €980 in January. Come the end of the year according to this, i will be forking out an extra €210 which is a staggering 21% of what i am currently paying!!!

is an understatement!

Mark Gleeson · 25-09-2008, 16:01

Cue the IE brain washing exercise

"Our annual tickets are already heavily discounted....."

grainne whale · 26-09-2008, 08:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Cue the IE brain washing exercise

"Our annual tickets are already heavily discounted....."

Only if you travel 365 days a year!!

tigger1962 · 26-09-2008, 13:36

this and the parking means it'll now be cheaper to drive to dublin for me as I suspect the ticket from Dundalk will go up by an equal amount. I have free parking in my mother-in-laws house. CIE buses don't suit me and my work placw won't deal with a private bus service for annual taxsaver tickets

hoopsheff · 29-09-2008, 11:59

Any word on tax relief for the (disgraceful) parking charges?

Mark Hennessy · 29-09-2008, 12:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsheff

Any word on tax relief for the (disgraceful) parking charges?

Very unlikely is my guess.

The current fiscal mess the govt is in would tend to rule that out in my opinion

ThomasJ · 29-09-2008, 14:01

It sometimes makes me wonder when making these decisions what exactly is the DOT thinking? Is a cut in subvention on their minds?

Mark Hennessy · 29-09-2008, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasJ

It sometimes makes me wonder when making these decisions what exactly is the DOT thinking? Is a cut in subvention on their minds?

We've been promised a "bloodbath" on spending by the govt.

Rashers · 29-09-2008, 17:58

My Annual short hop bus and rail pass I got set me back €980 in January. Come the end of the year according to this, i will be forking out an extra €210 which is a staggering 21% of what i am currently paying!!!

I'm very surprised none of the papers have copped this. A 21% increase will put a lot of people off buying annual tickets, especially those only travelling a couple of stations.

Also I assume the 2009 timetable won't show any service improvements to match the price increases? I am especially looking for improvements in the 6-12pm suburban services, and the 5am-6.30am services. Trains sitting around in depots - would cost very little to run a few 4 carriage services.

ThomasJ · 29-09-2008, 18:12

You have hit it on the head Rashers! In the Metro today IE confirmed rises of 15% to Annual passes, but bear in mind people who buy tickets in January will see a rise of over 21% considering they bought their ticket last January. will post the price comparisons in a bit.

I am very suprised the media didn't cop this

Coolmine99 · 30-09-2008, 10:11

I have to say I nearly choked on me porridge this morning when I heard the IR ad on the radio (RTE 1) - you know the new ones telling us all how great the train is and how we should be getting thit instead of driving. Something about not stressing about parking, road rage or rising fuel prices (I'm paraphrasing, so maybe someone has the text of thead). No mention of the 15% hike in their new ads, funny that.

Mark Gleeson · 30-09-2008, 10:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasJ

You have hit it on the head Rashers! In the Metro today IE confirmed rises of 15% to Annual passes, but bear in mind people who buy tickets in January will see a rise of over 21% considering they bought their ticket last January. will post the price comparisons in a bit.

I am very suprised the media didn't cop this

Got the dig in on the last word last night.

ThomasJ · 30-09-2008, 12:27

So heres the comparisons since January 2008 for rail related annual tickets

Short Hop Rail Only Tickets
Annual Commuter Rail/DART
January 2008 EUR 845
Current Price EUR 890
New Price EUR 1,030
Difference since Jan 2008 EUR 185 - 17.96%

Short Hop Rail & Bus Tickets
Annual Short Hop Bus/Rail
January 2008 EUR 980
Current Price EUR 1,035
New Price EUR 1,190
Difference since Jan 2008 EUR 210 - 21.42%

Short Hop Rail & LUAS Tickets
Annual Commuter Rail/DART and LUAS
January EUR 1,190
Current Price EUR 1,250
New Price EUR 1,435
Difference since Jan 2008 EUR 245 - 20.58%

Short Hop Rail, Bus & LUAS Tickets
Annual Commuter Rail/DART, Bus and LUAS
January 2008 EUR 1,450
Current Price EUR 1,520
New Price EUR 1,750
Difference since Jan 2008 EUR 300 - 20.68%

hoopsheff · 30-09-2008, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coolmine99

I have to say I nearly choked on me porridge this morning when I heard the IR ad on the radio (RTE 1) - you know the new ones telling us all how great the train is and how we should be getting thit instead of driving. Something about not stressing about parking, road rage or rising fuel prices (I'm paraphrasing, so maybe someone has the text of thead). No mention of the 15% hike in their new ads, funny that.

I heard this...they basically said you dont need to worry about rising fuel prices if you travel with IR...well EXCUSE ME...but IR use rising fuel costs as an excuse to increase prices twice in the past 12 mths!!

Methinks a complaint to the advertising standards agency could be in line!!

25-09-2008, 15:27	#3
grainne whale Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Celbridge Posts: 259	Actually, it wont be worth my while getting the Short Hop Taxsaver ticket, I've just totted it up, there will be no benefit as I don't travel enough. It will be back to the daily ticket for me. Last edited by grainne whale : 25-09-2008 at 15:31.

25-09-2008, 15:43	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Daily tickets unlikely to increase by the same amount as the DoT has control over the prices normally. __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

25-09-2008, 16:01	#6
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Cue the IE brain washing exercise "Our annual tickets are already heavily discounted....." __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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25-09-2008, 14:22	#2
Trampas Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 242	Short Hop Rail Only Tickets Annual Commuter Rail/DART Current Price EUR 890 New Price EUR 1,030 That its a 15% (I think) rise Only went up this year. How do they get away with it?

25-09-2008, 15:57	#5
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	My Annual short hop bus and rail pass I got set me back €980 in January. Come the end of the year according to this, i will be forking out an extra €210 which is a staggering 21% of what i am currently paying!!! is an understatement!

26-09-2008, 13:36	#8
tigger1962 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kilcurry Posts: 501	this and the parking means it'll now be cheaper to drive to dublin for me as I suspect the ticket from Dundalk will go up by an equal amount. I have free parking in my mother-in-laws house. CIE buses don't suit me and my work placw won't deal with a private bus service for annual taxsaver tickets

29-09-2008, 11:59	#9
hoopsheff Regular Poster Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 90	Any word on tax relief for the (disgraceful) parking charges?

29-09-2008, 14:01	#11
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	It sometimes makes me wonder when making these decisions what exactly is the DOT thinking? Is a cut in subvention on their minds?

29-09-2008, 17:58	#13
Rashers Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 431	My Annual short hop bus and rail pass I got set me back €980 in January. Come the end of the year according to this, i will be forking out an extra €210 which is a staggering 21% of what i am currently paying!!! I'm very surprised none of the papers have copped this. A 21% increase will put a lot of people off buying annual tickets, especially those only travelling a couple of stations. Also I assume the 2009 timetable won't show any service improvements to match the price increases? I am especially looking for improvements in the 6-12pm suburban services, and the 5am-6.30am services. Trains sitting around in depots - would cost very little to run a few 4 carriage services.

29-09-2008, 18:12	#14
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	You have hit it on the head Rashers! In the Metro today IE confirmed rises of 15% to Annual passes, but bear in mind people who buy tickets in January will see a rise of over 21% considering they bought their ticket last January. will post the price comparisons in a bit. I am very suprised the media didn't cop this

30-09-2008, 10:11	#15
Coolmine99 New to the board Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In the disputed area of Castleknock / Carpenterstown Posts: 26	I have to say I nearly choked on me porridge this morning when I heard the IR ad on the radio (RTE 1) - you know the new ones telling us all how great the train is and how we should be getting thit instead of driving. Something about not stressing about parking, road rage or rising fuel prices (I'm paraphrasing, so maybe someone has the text of thead). No mention of the 15% hike in their new ads, funny that.

30-09-2008, 12:27	#17
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	So heres the comparisons since January 2008 for rail related annual tickets Short Hop Rail Only Tickets Annual Commuter Rail/DART January 2008 EUR 845 Current Price EUR 890 New Price EUR 1,030 Difference since Jan 2008 EUR 185 - 17.96% Short Hop Rail & Bus Tickets Annual Short Hop Bus/Rail January 2008 EUR 980 Current Price EUR 1,035 New Price EUR 1,190 Difference since Jan 2008 EUR 210 - 21.42% Short Hop Rail & LUAS Tickets Annual Commuter Rail/DART and LUAS January EUR 1,190 Current Price EUR 1,250 New Price EUR 1,435 Difference since Jan 2008 EUR 245 - 20.58% Short Hop Rail, Bus & LUAS Tickets Annual Commuter Rail/DART, Bus and LUAS January 2008 EUR 1,450 Current Price EUR 1,520 New Price EUR 1,750 Difference since Jan 2008 EUR 300 - 20.68%