[article] Docklands Luas C1 approved

Mark Gleeson · 21-12-2006, 16:50

Finally its approved

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Originally Posted by ireland.com

Cullen approves Luas extension

Minister for Transport Martin Cullen today approved an application by the Railway Procurement Agency (RPA) to extend the Luas Red line from its existing terminus at Connolly Station to the Point in Dublin.

The 1.5 kilometre double-track extension will have four stops - George's Dock, Mayor Square, Spencer Dock and the Point - and is scheduled to be completed by 2009.

Mr Cullen said employment in the area served by the existing Tallaght to Connolly line is forecast to increase by almost 50 per cent.

"The population is forecast to more than double, resulting in an increased demand for public transport," he said. "By then, this extension is expected to add over two million new Luas trips per annum and will remove over one million vehicle trips from the streets."

In August, Mr Cullen approved a 7.5-kilometre extension of the Luas Green Line from Sandyford to Cherrywood in south Co Dublin.

Mark Gleeson · 21-12-2006, 17:01

Very happy to confirm two issues raised by Platform 11 are attached as conditions on the order

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10. The Agency shall provide a sufficient number of ticket-vending machines and crowd-controlling barriers in the vicinity of “The Point” stop so as to provide for proper crowd control on the occasion of major events at The Point. The nature of the crowd-controlling barriers and the number and location of ticket-vending machines shall be agreed with the Planning Department of Dublin City Council.

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14. The Agency shall carry out a study, in conjunction with Iarnrod Éireann, Dublin Bus and the Dublin Transportation Office, regarding delivery of ongoing public transport services to the rest of the City of Dublin.

The full Platform 11 submission can be found here http://www.platform11.org/reports/20...submission.pdf

apwhite · 22-12-2006, 00:27

How will the whole connolly stop be handled? Is it going do a triangle busarus-connolly-major street??

Dave · 22-12-2006, 00:32

Driver will switch ends at Connolly and the tram will drive "backwards" down Mayor Street.

CSL · 22-12-2006, 13:14

Is that not silly beyond belief ... , so we have a wye that's just for connolly station ? Surely it would be easier to schedule 1/3 of services just for Connolly and the rest carry straight on.

Alternatively kill the Connolly wye entirely and run a overbridge from Busaras to Connolly.

Colm Moore · 23-12-2006, 01:10

Line A could operate Tallaght-Connolly and Line C could operate Heuston-Point Depot.

luasifer · 24-12-2006, 01:10

the section of the line between abbey street and connolly is slow enough without adding this farce of going into connolly and reversing out again towards the point.

It should be a split line. say trams from Citywest go to Connolly and trams from Tallaght go to The Point. that is how the RER works in Paris with many branches operating.

If a 10 minute service operated on both routes then if timetabled properly a 5 minute service could run on the shared part of the line

Gary · 27-12-2006, 09:38

On the daily rush hour if the train has to reverse and driver change ends in connolly the IFSC passengers for mayor street will all just get out at Busaras and walk to work. This doesn't leave many customers left onboard except those going to the yet to be built point village.

CSL · 27-12-2006, 12:48

Eradicate the wye at Connolly after building the extension and put an overbridge in from Connolly concourse across Amiens St. down to Busaras [ badly needed in any event ]

Colm Moore · 28-12-2006, 03:25

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Originally Posted by Gary

On the daily rush hour if the train has to reverse and driver change ends in connolly the IFSC passengers for mayor street will all just get out at Busaras and walk to work. This doesn't leave many customers left onboard except those going to the yet to be built point village.

Potentially you operate with a spare driver in the system. Depending on how long it takes a driver to log off at one end and another to log on at the far end.

Tram arrives at Connolly from Heuston, (some) passengers and driver disembark. At the other end of the tram, another driver gets in and takes the tram to the Point. Driver then walks to the approach end of the platform and takes the next tram to arrive. And is able to catch some air and walk off some of the stress from having to deal with Heuston-Connolly. It works better with bigger trains, but might be useful.

I wonder if there is space to create a turning loop on Amiens Street / Harbourmaster Place.

shweeney · 02-01-2007, 15:57

they could compensate for the delay by actually giving the tram some bloody priority between connolly and heuston. the amount of time it takes to get across amiens, gardiner and o'connell streets - you are literally quicker walking.

Colm Moore · 03-01-2007, 20:41

I understand CIE are proposing to build a new bus interchange in the Connolly car park. It would have been nice to know that before the order was approved.

Gary · 04-01-2007, 09:41

What's the new bus interchange about? Overflow from Busaras?

All the Kildares Bus Eireanns seem to have moved over to Georges' Quay away from the Busaras freeing up some more space.

If anyone has ever been to Buenos Aires they have a very spacious bus station on two levels on the outskirts of the town. There was talks before of moving the Busaras to the M50.

Colm Donoghue · 04-01-2007, 10:01

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Originally Posted by Victor

I understand CIE are proposing to build a new bus interchange in the Connolly car park. It would have been nice to know that before the order was approved.

Likewise it would have been nice to put a luas stop at the nearest point of the Point luas extension to the new docklands train station. However, the planning application for the docklads station only went up after publc onsultation for the luas extension had closed.
Again, this CIE "plan" has only been made public after the railway order for the luas extension was made.

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22-12-2006, 00:27	#3
apwhite New to the board Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15	How will the whole connolly stop be handled? Is it going do a triangle busarus-connolly-major street??

22-12-2006, 00:32	#4
Dave Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 141	Driver will switch ends at Connolly and the tram will drive "backwards" down Mayor Street.

22-12-2006, 13:14	#5
CSL Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 378	Is that not silly beyond belief ... , so we have a wye that's just for connolly station ? Surely it would be easier to schedule 1/3 of services just for Connolly and the rest carry straight on. Alternatively kill the Connolly wye entirely and run a overbridge from Busaras to Connolly.

23-12-2006, 01:10	#6
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	Line A could operate Tallaght-Connolly and Line C could operate Heuston-Point Depot.

24-12-2006, 01:10	#7
luasifer Regular Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 37	the section of the line between abbey street and connolly is slow enough without adding this farce of going into connolly and reversing out again towards the point. It should be a split line. say trams from Citywest go to Connolly and trams from Tallaght go to The Point. that is how the RER works in Paris with many branches operating. If a 10 minute service operated on both routes then if timetabled properly a 5 minute service could run on the shared part of the line

27-12-2006, 09:38	#8
Gary Regular Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 71	On the daily rush hour if the train has to reverse and driver change ends in connolly the IFSC passengers for mayor street will all just get out at Busaras and walk to work. This doesn't leave many customers left onboard except those going to the yet to be built point village.

27-12-2006, 12:48	#9
CSL Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 378	Eradicate the wye at Connolly after building the extension and put an overbridge in from Connolly concourse across Amiens St. down to Busaras [ badly needed in any event ]

02-01-2007, 15:57	#11
shweeney Regular Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 180	they could compensate for the delay by actually giving the tram some bloody priority between connolly and heuston. the amount of time it takes to get across amiens, gardiner and o'connell streets - you are literally quicker walking.

03-01-2007, 20:41	#12
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	I understand CIE are proposing to build a new bus interchange in the Connolly car park. It would have been nice to know that before the order was approved.

04-01-2007, 09:41	#13
Gary Regular Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 71	What's the new bus interchange about? Overflow from Busaras? All the Kildares Bus Eireanns seem to have moved over to Georges' Quay away from the Busaras freeing up some more space. If anyone has ever been to Buenos Aires they have a very spacious bus station on two levels on the outskirts of the town. There was talks before of moving the Busaras to the M50.