Go Ahead as preferred bidder for Dublin Bus routes

Mark Gleeson · 10-08-2017, 12:05

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/new...routes-dublin/

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Go-Ahead has been selected as the preferred bidder for the contract relating to the operation of 24 Public Service Obligation (PSO) bus routes in the Dublin metropolitan area. NTA has written to Go-Ahead to inform the company of the decision. Go-Ahead is expected to begin operating some of these routes by the end of November 2018 and all routes by February 2019.

And it begins

ie219 · 27-08-2017, 17:49

Perhaps they should run 10% of of the railways too. I think it would be a good idea myself.

comcor · 28-08-2017, 08:40

The difficulty there is that they would need to be some self-contained lines, where rolling stock isn't shared across the network. And that's before you get into the problems of depots etc.

The only realistic candidates are DART and Cork Suburban, and the latter is far too small to interest international operators, so you'd end up with some fudge where someone in Ireland, who is politically connected, but knows nothing about running a railway gets a juicy contract.

Sealink · 27-09-2017, 11:32

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Originally Posted by ie219

Perhaps they should run 10% of of the railways too. I think it would be a good idea myself.

Be careful what you wish for...

ACustomer · 27-09-2017, 12:26

I think that Irish Rail is simply too small to break up into separate franchises, nothing to do with privatisation more to do with the scale of operation.

Sealink, I think it would be unwise to use the link you provided about Southern Rail as an example of being careful about what one wishes for. The company seems to be a complete outlier with uniquely awful industrial relations problems, not all of which are the company's fault.

Mark Gleeson · 27-09-2017, 13:20

At best you get two chunks, Dublin and rest

Privatisation is no different to current really, as its all a contract.

Difference is there is no motivation for Irish Rail to get better, no risk. In a private sector approach, you can't make money unless you deliver.

The complete opposite to Southern is Chiltern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiltern_Railways and this is far closer to Irish Rail's operating conditions and asset quality and conditions

27-08-2017, 17:49	#2
ie219 New to the board Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dublin Posts: 7	Perhaps they should run 10% of of the railways too. I think it would be a good idea myself. __________________ Gerard McAuley

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Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	At best you get two chunks, Dublin and rest Privatisation is no different to current really, as its all a contract. Difference is there is no motivation for Irish Rail to get better, no risk. In a private sector approach, you can't make money unless you deliver. The complete opposite to Southern is Chiltern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiltern_Railways and this is far closer to Irish Rail's operating conditions and asset quality and conditions __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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28-08-2017, 08:40	#3
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	The difficulty there is that they would need to be some self-contained lines, where rolling stock isn't shared across the network. And that's before you get into the problems of depots etc. The only realistic candidates are DART and Cork Suburban, and the latter is far too small to interest international operators, so you'd end up with some fudge where someone in Ireland, who is politically connected, but knows nothing about running a railway gets a juicy contract.

27-09-2017, 12:26	#5
ACustomer Really Regular Poster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 767	I think that Irish Rail is simply too small to break up into separate franchises, nothing to do with privatisation more to do with the scale of operation. Sealink, I think it would be unwise to use the link you provided about Southern Rail as an example of being careful about what one wishes for. The company seems to be a complete outlier with uniquely awful industrial relations problems, not all of which are the company's fault.