[article] Irish Rail are investigating after a door lock on one of its carriage

Mark Gleeson · 25-01-2016, 14:25

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-34394362.html

Quote:

Irish Rail are investigating after a door lock on one of its carriage activated while still metres away from a station platform.

The incident happened earlier today on an eight carriage Dart that was pulling into Tara St Station.

Given that drivers randomly respect the stop boards at stations it was only a matter of time before something like this happened

James Howard · 25-01-2016, 16:13

While in this case it's a safety issue, this is is one of those things that is a mystery as to why they can't get right. Stopping in the right place is one of those little things that could make such a difference to the passenger experience.

It is a right pain to unnecessarily have to walk an extra four car-lengths up a windy dark platform with the rail pouring down on a winter night. It is far worse for people with restricted mobility. How much effort is it to stop the train within 10 foot of any given stop.

Dublin13 · 25-01-2016, 20:37

I've seen a few times when the Japanese sets are opened/unlocked a couple of seconds before the train has come to a complete halt.

Mark Gleeson · 25-01-2016, 22:48

Thats completely fine under the rules

seamus kilcock · 26-01-2016, 18:47

Common sense and not rules dictate that train should be stopped before doors open.

Mark Gleeson · 27-01-2016, 10:42

Safety rule book allows the doors to be release below 3kph

Try the Paris metro when the train could be still moving at a fair pace before stopping

James Howard · 27-01-2016, 11:06

Extreme safety dictates that the doors can't be opened until the train is stopped and brakes are locked. This would slow operations down and make journey times less competitive so more people would drive which would result in an overall increase in road deaths.

Back in the days of slam doors one or two people were killed every year falling out of trains which were probably mostly suicides so the situation nowadays is vastly improved.

I can remember as a student seeing people regularly jumping out of the Sligo train at the short down platform at Edgeworthstown because it use to take about 5 minutes to work your way up the overcrowded 1810 service.

Jamie2k9 · 28-01-2016, 14:21

Not to go to off topic but what system does Luas have, the doors ore unlocked (lights indicate anyway) before the tram stops however they don't actually open until it's stopped.

Thomas J Stamp · 29-01-2016, 15:53

luas always stops first from my experiance.

Jamie2k9 · 29-01-2016, 19:01

Its usually driver specific.

25-01-2016, 22:48	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Thats completely fine under the rules __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

27-01-2016, 10:42	#6
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Safety rule book allows the doors to be release below 3kph Try the Paris metro when the train could be still moving at a fair pace before stopping __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

29-01-2016, 15:53	#9
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	luas always stops first from my experiance. __________________ We are the passengers

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25-01-2016, 16:13	#2
James Howard Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sligo Line Posts: 1,115	While in this case it's a safety issue, this is is one of those things that is a mystery as to why they can't get right. Stopping in the right place is one of those little things that could make such a difference to the passenger experience. It is a right pain to unnecessarily have to walk an extra four car-lengths up a windy dark platform with the rail pouring down on a winter night. It is far worse for people with restricted mobility. How much effort is it to stop the train within 10 foot of any given stop.

25-01-2016, 20:37	#3
Dublin13 Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 130	I've seen a few times when the Japanese sets are opened/unlocked a couple of seconds before the train has come to a complete halt.

26-01-2016, 18:47	#5
seamus kilcock Regular Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 103	Common sense and not rules dictate that train should be stopped before doors open.

27-01-2016, 11:06	#7
James Howard Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sligo Line Posts: 1,115	Extreme safety dictates that the doors can't be opened until the train is stopped and brakes are locked. This would slow operations down and make journey times less competitive so more people would drive which would result in an overall increase in road deaths. Back in the days of slam doors one or two people were killed every year falling out of trains which were probably mostly suicides so the situation nowadays is vastly improved. I can remember as a student seeing people regularly jumping out of the Sligo train at the short down platform at Edgeworthstown because it use to take about 5 minutes to work your way up the overcrowded 1810 service.

28-01-2016, 14:21	#8
Jamie2k9 Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,146	Not to go to off topic but what system does Luas have, the doors ore unlocked (lights indicate anyway) before the tram stops however they don't actually open until it's stopped.

29-01-2016, 19:01	#10
Jamie2k9 Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,146	Its usually driver specific.