[Article] Workers at Irish Rail reject cost saving measures

[Mark Gleeson]

SIPTU workers in Irish Rail have voted by 71pc to 29pc to reject proposals from the Labour Relations Commission in relation to changes to their employment.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news...-30047755.html

Bear in mind NBRU are a significant union in IE, so still awaiting the result from them

[Jamie2k9]

NBRU reject by 82% but clerical union accepted according to RTE.

[Jamie2k9]

Ingrid Miley on twitter:

margin of #siptu #irishrail rejection 51`%-49%. TSSA clerical union already accepted, NBRU ballot result next week

TSSA clerical union already accepted #irishrail Lab Ct rec, NBRU ballot due next week.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0521/618...sh-rail-siptu/

SIPTU members at Iarnród Éireann are to ballot for strike action after they narrowly rejected a Labour Court recommendation on cost reduction plans at the state rail company.

Given the such narrow rejection realistically a strike is probaly unlikely?

[Mickey H]

By law how much notice do unions in the Irish Republic have to give of a strike? I just wasted some time on google trying to find the answer without success.

Also in the event of a train not running because of a strike are you entitled to a 100% refund?

[Mark Gleeson]

7 days notice is required by law

Yes you are entitled to a refund on any ticket sold prior to the strike being announced

[grainne whale]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

7 days notice is required by law

Yes you are entitled to a refund on any ticket sold prior to the strike being announced

Happens in the event of a strike if you are an annual ticket holder, are you entitled to a refund for those days you have to get alternative transport.

[Mark Gleeson]

You should be, but you get into a legal issue with taxsaver tickets

[Jamie2k9]

Pay cuts effective 24 August.

[James Howard]

Surely the legal issue wouldn't arise if the refund was less than expenses incurred in getting to work by alternate means. Really the fair thing to happen would be for Irish Rail to cover the cost of getting to work by whatever means possible.

[Kilocharlie]

SIPTU have called a 24hr strike for the 25th August and an on-going work to rule including and overtime and rest day work ban. NBRU voting at present.

[grainne whale]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

You should be, but you get into a legal issue with taxsaver tickets

Surely an arrangement could be made that if you travel by bus, you could just send in your ticket and get a refund.

[Mark Gleeson]

Assumes you will be able to get a bus, that should in theory work.

Taxsaver is an issue as any cash returned to the customer is taxable

[grainne whale]

On the other hand taking money from people (taxsaver ticket) and not providing the means of transport is an injustice.

[Jamie2k9]

SIPTU members voted in favour of latest proposals by 71% to 29%. NBRU due lather.

[Mark Gleeson]

NBRU has accepted also