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![]() I've used the Mastercard one on VIA Rail, not too bothersome.
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![]() That paper is interesting reading and it good to confirm that I am not paranoid. I came across 3D secure a couple of months ago while buying something on the web and it set all kinds of alarm bells ringing as it looked very much like a phishing site.
There was no way I was giving it any personal details as the whole thing directly contradicted normal security procedures. Banks seem to be particularly prone to confusing their customers with random online identities. For example, BOI's online banking has been 365online.com for years. This is just another way of shifting the liability for online fraud away from the bank/merchant and onto the customer. |
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![]() Booking engine down during a weekday business hour. Who cares about revenue when the taxpayer covers the losses
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![]() I doubt it's a big business time; they probably have done at least some analysis.
3D Secure is a pain for customers IMO, although it saves merchants loads. |
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![]() Monday morning is the least busy for bookings
Call centre is available to handle bookings if the site is not available 3D secure is far from perfect but it does provide an extra level of security though weak which will reduce the cost Booking fees will be gone soon
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![]() Full details at link.
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![]() I wish Irish Rail would drop this drivel, it's totally untrue. It provides extra security and peace of mind to Irish Rail while removing any deniability to the customer. It gives the customer absolutely nothing.
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![]() All due respect Mark it's not good enough. What if the upgrade had gone badly and the site had stayed down? What if the engine upgrade had impacted the systems the call centre had access to? If my firm's website - which has no ecommerce component and probably has a budget one thousandth of IE's - was down during business hours avoidably there would be questions why. IE just skates by because it's a semi state and thus expectations are minimal.
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![]() What if...what if? Never mind that. People should read the article in the link provided by plant 43 (post #3). It's by two Cambridge computer scientists and it really puts the boot into a thoroughly badly-designed system.
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![]() So do it at 3am when there is no staffed call centre...?
Try buying something from Apple day of a product launch you can't even browse their online store for several hours. Irish Rail do have a complete test duplicate system, any booking in the process has to be allowed complete before the switch is made, actual time to do the change is seconds.
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![]() Mark
after 9pm would be reasonable given that few trains would be left to book that day - you'd have to pay a premium for the vendor to have someone available but that's what you do when you don't want to look sloppy. I've had a vendor on my site at 0700 on a Saturday because that's what our business need required to do a cutover balancing the business need with reasonable expectation of staff and vendor. RUI seems to have a decent relationship with the techy side of IE but that's not a reason to let them slide when something that ropey on the ops side or the PR side and the cudgels would have been taken up. You see this differently from me so let's agree to disagree eh? |
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When we're doing website/web-service upgrades, we upgrade each production instance one at a time and put it live when the upgrade is complete. There are very few upgrades which put our production system out of use, the business absolutely would not agree to it. You absolutely cannot compare this to high levels of demand putting the Apple website out of order. |
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![]() Irish Rails website is vastly more reliable than both Dublin Bus and Luas both of which have fallen over badly in the past at the worst time
There was a very brief advertised outage to bookings on a date and time with very low bookings plus a call centre was staffed at the time to cover for any critical bookings. Doing it at 2am there would be no call centre. All other website services where available We received no complaints and are happy that Irish Rail have appropriate provision for testing and fallback. A new booking system at design stage should be able to cope better with changes in real time Apple deliberately kill their store which is madness its not a load issue No company can deliver 100% there is always downtime it's all about how quickly the problem is fixed, milliseconds if you have the resources
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