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![]() Perhaps I could misquote Mathew Engel from "11 Minutes Late"...
Creating a viable transport network in the twenty-first century is one of the most complex responsibilities of a modern government. It requires long term planning and financial commitment. There is political risk because projects go wrong (remarkably often in the case of Ireland). And the reward may be so far in the future as to be invisible to politicians concerned with tomorrow's headlines, next weeks polls and next year's election. Successive Ministers for Transport who cowered on major public transport projects in the late 1990's cost us this situation. And 11 years later...we have another one! Last edited by Jack O'Neill : 16-09-2011 at 10:10. |
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* Maintaining the speed limits and assuming no stops for tolls, traffic lights, congestion, food / drink / bathroom breaks, phone calls. etc. would mean a travel time of 2 hours 11 minutes.
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![]() The Frank McDonald piece is typical of the Irish Times: strong on opinion and weak on the facts.
The average speed on his Cork to Dublin journey was by my reckoning 119 kph. Given that the legal maximum is 120 and that there are at least 30 kms with limits of 100 kph or less, and a slow urban section between Newlands Cross and Temple Bar, as well as 2 toll booths, then the journey must have involved significant breaches of the speed limits. Does McDonald condone breaking the law like this? His eulogy about the French TGV is beside the point: the size of France, the distance between major cities make it suitable for high-speed rail in a way which simply doesn't apply here. Relatively modest improvements should suffice to deliver 2h 30m Dublin-Cork and 1h40m Dublin-Belfast: talk of TGVs is pointless and only serves to scare people away from what seems an extravagant level of investment. Also you would think that France was unique in terms of its investment in high-speed rail. What about Spain, for example? |
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![]() 2:15 is possible from Dunkettle to Newlands Cross, but God help you either side of them.
TBH While I'm a huge supporter of rail over road, I don't like the use of weasel words. The motorway across South Wexford isn't just for South Wexford, but links Munster and parts of Leinster to the Southern half o the UK and on to Mainland Europe. If we've committed ourselves to road freight, it's a significant piece of national infrastructure. You can argue the rights and wrongs of the that decision, but choosing to disguise the fact undermines the rest of your opinions. |
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