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![]() Whilst it is good to see that Prof. Smyth has zoned in on an issue we raised in the media three or four years ago - that the motorway network will inflict severe damage on the Intercity Rail Network - it is sad to see the old reliables of Congestion Charge/Tolling being mentioned. But that is for another day.
It is staggereing to see a few quotes in there, all blasie-like, as if they are of such non-conqsequence as to be run of the mill, but which are dammning: Quote:
IE had no choice but to introduce new rolling stock - the stuff they had was falling apart. They deserve no credit whatsoever for that in my opinion, and in fact should be dammned for letting their stock get into such condition in the first place. To mention fixing the odd spot here and there is tinkering with the system. There has to be a fundamental relay of the Dublin-Cork line (it has started in the usual piecemeal fashion) in a manner which needs more than "some" money. Quote:
Untill then, untill IE give up the concept of a full intercity rail network entirely, the good people of this review must put it in black and white that unless there is a faster rail service, with the two hourly clockface timetable as shouted about by IE for many many years as a basic then the Intercity Network will go the way of the dinosaur. |
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![]() Fearn is so off the ball, that when asked what were his highlights and lowlights of Transport 21 that he mentioned the Malahide Viaduct. Definitely a lowlight, but hardly part of T21.
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![]() Sligo isn't speed-competitive with road either. Google Maps says 2 hours 39 minutes by road while the typical Irish Rail time is 3 hours 5 minutes. This would obviously outside of any peak-time delays but from personal experience going as far as Longford, I can easily beat the train by car.
I am not so sure about the validity of the assertion that dramatic improvements in speed are required on all lines. The only class of user that really values speed above all else is the business user and these wouldn't exactly be packing out Sligo line services. Commuters (well I do) value reliability and comfort most, students and shoppers value price and neither reliability nor price will be much aided by massive investment and service disruptions associated with upgrading a single-line corridor to gain substantial speed improvements. |
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![]() Sligo is doing very well, second only to Cork in numbers and is actually still growing. No motorway west of Kinnegad. The train hammers the bus on journey time and matches on frequency. Bye bye Sligo airport as well, 60k more passengers will need transport
To be fair Colm it took some pushing from you to get him to mention a low point. That said Fearn actually talks the talk just a pity it hasn't been translated into action. Credit to Frank Allen of the RPA who was quite honest about the planning delays being a problem.
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![]() Sligo road is Motorway to 5km West of Kinnegad (an HQDC section was reclassified back in '09) continuous dual carriageway with no roundabouts thereafter to beyond Mullingar. Its West of Mullingar that the road is a total shambles, and even out to Longford the train beats the bus on timing.
Though tbh I think it's only because Bus Eireanns services make so many local stops between Mullingar and Busarus and have to leave the main roads to do so, whereas station platforms are on the mainline (obviously). The real competition for IE out in Sligo/Longford is the private car. |
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![]() Strangely enough, Cork-Mayo via Portarlington would still be competitive with the road times if they hadn't made you wait an hour for the connection at Portarlington.
Out of interest, how much better could times be if the lines were electrified, but the actual rails not touched (I know this is an academic point because both upgrading and electrification would be more efficiently done at the same time) |
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![]() Dublin Cork I'd guess a saving of 5-10 minutes at most vs 201/Mk4. The only difference is under acceleration, under braking there is no difference. The only point of serious advantage is departing Cork which is a continuos climb for many miles
For the record a 201/Mk4 is just as quick to 100mph as a UK HST. The UK HST IC 125 is only 5 minutes down on the electric IC225 over several hundred miles
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