Student tickets...

Philly · 05-09-2006, 21:32

Hi all.

I am writing this as I have no other way of finding out what I need to know.

I e-mailed IE, you see, and they never got back to me. That was two weeks ago.

I am on my way to college from next Wednesday the 13th on. I am studying in Dublin and live in Newbridge. I am wondering - how much does a monthly student ticket cost? How does one go about purchasing one? I have applied for a "Student Travel Card" and hope to have that by next Wednesday / Thursday.

Thanks for your time.

Derek Wheeler · 05-09-2006, 21:55

Cheers Philly.

Our own genius technical officer will provide the info very shortly. I'm way passed student days.(despite being the spokesperson)

Thanks for logging on. Keep us posted about your experiences.

Mark Gleeson · 05-09-2006, 22:45

You will need to get the id card first before a ticket can be issued, normally you need that stamped by the college i.e you need to be registered first. They are normally very efficent

Student fares are available on single and returns to Newbridge, student fare return is 12 euro (valid for 30 days), normal adult is 13 euro (valid day of issue only). Add 2 euro if you wish to go to Dublin City Centre (90/1/2 bus or Luas transfer)

Monthly tickets are vaild from the 1st of the month, student weekly Sunday to Saturday

Forget about the IE website it never works give the lads in Newbridge a ring 045 431219 and explain exactly what you want

You will need transport from Heuston to your college, if its NCI the 90 bus goes within yards of it if so you want a monthly ticket to Dublin City Centre, one ticket only needed

I know its not TCD so you will most likely need a bus. There is something called a long hop ticket which used to exist almost certainly still does and it would give you unlimited travel rail/bus eireann and Dublin Bus for everything within 30 miles of Dublin

Otherwise you end up with a monthly rail ticket to Heuston and a monthly Dublin Bus ticket. Best option here to get quotes and to work out how many days a week you will be in College and weigh up the options, if I knew where you where going I might be able to be more precise

Philly · 06-09-2006, 19:18

Thanks!

Was in Dublin today registering. I eventually got a quote for a student monthly ticket ~(after going being sent by customer services to tickets and back again, the guy searched out a book letting me know about the fees). It is €106 for a monthly ticket if I have the "Student Travel Card". Then a montly Bus/LUAS ticket is €64.

So €170 a month to get to and all around Dublin ain't too bad, is it!

Oh and as for issues: there was a leaking roof on the 8:01 from Newbridge to Heuston, if that's any good to ye! Oddly, it wasn't raining out, but water came from somewhere! My "Herald AM" got drenched!

Derek Wheeler · 06-09-2006, 20:02

Surely you can buy just one monthly ticket that covers all your needs.

Que oldies lament.

In 1990/91, my medium hop ticket cost around £21 per week and covered unlimited travel from Naas on Bus Eireann to Dublin and then unlimited travel on Dublin Bus and Irish Rail within a certain boundary.

Why the seperate tickets for rail and Bus/Luas?

Going to research it. Need to.

Mark Gleeson · 06-09-2006, 20:13

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Originally Posted by Philly

there was a leaking roof on the 8:01 from Newbridge to Heuston, if that's any good to ye! Oddly, it wasn't raining out, but water came from somewhere! My "Herald AM" got drenched!

Thats the tank for the toilet, they are rusting on the older trains. Likely that train will be replaced with a slightly newer one in coming weeks

You don't mention where you are going which makes this tricky to confirm it as the best deal but it is massively cheaper than buying returns each day and its total travel freedom on Luas and bus in Dublin

The Bus/Luas ticket is valid for 30 days from date of purchase but be careful if you buy it from a Luas ticket agent it will be valid from that day forward, if you buy it from a Dublin Bus ticket agent it will be valid from the day it is first used on the bus and is not valid on the Luas until it has been validated on the bus.

Got that there will be a test later

Oisin88 · 07-09-2006, 19:55

Yes, that begs the question: why is there no Heuston-UCD bus? Are Dublin Bus just waiting for the two luas lines up to make the 92 (invented when the luas made the 90 look like less of an option) redundant?

Derek Wheeler · 07-09-2006, 23:37

In my "college" days (christ I miss them

) BE ran a bus from Naas at 7.30 every morning, Mon-Fri, to UCD. It was open to any traveller and served the Green on the way. Used it on a frequent basis. I would say its still operating. If not, then its madness. It was a good example of visionary thinking. But then again it probably came about as a result of a CIE employee, living in Naas, with kids in UCD.

Yep. Im cynical.

Colm Donoghue · 08-09-2006, 08:35

One of their kids musta gone to DCU later as a bus service from Naas to DCU started in 96 or 97 during my sentence there.

Mark Gleeson · 08-09-2006, 08:53

There be a perfectly good bus service city UCD its called the 10, 11B, 46a, 145, 63, 84. DCU 11/a/b/c 13a and 19a, there is an assumption that unless public transport is direct that its as good as not existing at all

UCD is route 126 to Newbridge via Naas once a day

Brian Condron · 08-09-2006, 09:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

There be a perfectly good bus service city UCD its called the 10, 11B, 46a, 145, 63, 84, there is an assumption that unless public transport is direct that its as good as not existing at all

That is because it involves two separate tickets, walking across the city, and missing your 2nd bus by seconds. It is very difficult to take two buses in Dublin as they do not seem to be co-ordinated at all. I know that you can have a weekly bus ticket, but only regular users will have that. And to become a regular user, you have to overcome the perception that changing buses is difficult, and at the moment that perception is there.

By the way, in my opinion best way of getting from Heuston to UCD I believe is the 92 to Stephens Green and 46A to Montrose if it is peak hour, or 90 to O'Connell St. and 10 to UCD if it is off peak.

By the way, when I was in college, there used be a "46A" every friday at about 4:30 that went from the Terminus beside the Eng block to Heuston station. Don't know if it still exists, or why it was called a 46A. At this time the 746 was still called the 46A "Airport" though, so if the Heuston station one does still exist I'd imagine that is has been re-numbered.

EDIT: Two posts merged by me - Paul

Mark Gleeson · 08-09-2006, 09:46

You should be able to get a Naas Dublin long hop ticket which covers all CIE services within 30 miles of Dublin

Bear in mind there is only one service a day each way to UCD with Bus Eireann, fat lot of good that is

Maynooth_Line · 08-09-2006, 15:22

There's two buses in the morning, both around 9:20 (for some strange reason) from Heuston to Belfield. They display 46E on the front but are listed on the 46A timetable. There are a few others through out the day (but not many).

Do any of the X buses go by Heuston? Nearly all X buses terminate in Belfield in the morning and start there in the evening.

Oisin88 · 08-09-2006, 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

There be a perfectly good bus service city UCD its called the 10, 11B, 46a, 145, 63, 84. DCU 11/a/b/c 13a and 19a, there is an assumption that unless public transport is direct that its as good as not existing at all

Almost. I used to take the bus from Terenure to Finglas. 30-40 minutes to town on the bus. 10 minutes walk across town. 10-20 minute wait for the bus. 20 minute bus to Finglas.

Problem here is not the 50-60 minute travel time but the 20-30 minute extra "non-integration" time.

I'd imagine that if you were taking the train, 90/luas, bus option you would be talking about two 10-15 minute "non-integration" delays.

Even the direct bus option is no good for people who can't read on buses (travelsickness) who get to do their studying on the train so they can spend the rest of their valuable time in the pub etc...

Philly · 11-09-2006, 09:46

Hi again!

Well I sent off my aplication for a Student Travel Card last Thursday. Hopefully I will have it by the end of the week - they promise it within 5 working days. I was told at Heuston that I can only get a monthly ticket as far as Heuston and then have to buy a combined bus and Luas ticket. As I said, I don't mind as I feel €170 is good value. Much better than the €15 a day I pay.

Another question: is it true that you have to get your photo on the ticket? If so do I get my own passport photos?

Mark Gleeson · 11-09-2006, 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philly

I was told at Heuston that I can only get a monthly ticket as far as Heuston and then have to buy a combined bus and Luas ticket.

Thats false, you can get a ticket from Newbridge to Dublin city centre which includes the use of the Luas between Hesuton and Connolly as well as any journey on the 90/91/92 buses

Since we don't know where you are going we can't give advice as to which is the best option in cost terms

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philly

Another question: is it true that you have to get your photo on the ticket? If so do I get my own passport photos?

No, you must have the ID card with you at all times and the number on the ID card must match that printed on the ticket

Annual tickets are individualised for the user (you can request custom types)they come with the owners photo printed on them thus avoiding the need for an id card

Colm Donoghue · 11-09-2006, 09:58

Quote:

Annual tickets are individualised for the user (you can request custom types)they come with the owners photo printed on them thus avoiding the need for an id card

only annual rail tickets have this, bus&rail tickets mean you need to get an id card in dublin bus on O'Connell st.

Philly · 11-09-2006, 10:08

That's weird as I specifically asked if Heuston was the farthest I could get a monthly ticket - and the man replied yes.

Maybe you guys should be wording for IE - you seem to know more about their services

Mark Gleeson · 11-09-2006, 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philly

That's weird as I specifically asked if Heuston was the farthest I could get a monthly ticket - and the man replied yes.

Well I'm 100% sure there is a Newbridge to City Centre monthly ticket, there is a weekly one and I can prove it

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Monthly adult is €150, €18.20 extra for the Luas/90 bus

There should be a matching student ticket for each adult type

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philly

Maybe you guys should be wording for IE - you seem to know more about their services

That scares Irish Rail, we also know all the loop holes and the legal ways to get to places for much less than you think, buy a return to Cork, its perfectly legit to come back from Killarney

PaulM · 11-09-2006, 11:33

There is still a 46A from Heuston, I see it the odd time.

05-09-2006, 21:32	#1
Philly Regular Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 43	Student tickets... Hi all. I am writing this as I have no other way of finding out what I need to know. I e-mailed IE, you see, and they never got back to me. That was two weeks ago. I am on my way to college from next Wednesday the 13th on. I am studying in Dublin and live in Newbridge. I am wondering - how much does a monthly student ticket cost? How does one go about purchasing one? I have applied for a "Student Travel Card" and hope to have that by next Wednesday / Thursday. Thanks for your time.

05-09-2006, 22:45	#3
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	You will need to get the id card first before a ticket can be issued, normally you need that stamped by the college i.e you need to be registered first. They are normally very efficent Student fares are available on single and returns to Newbridge, student fare return is 12 euro (valid for 30 days), normal adult is 13 euro (valid day of issue only). Add 2 euro if you wish to go to Dublin City Centre (90/1/2 bus or Luas transfer) Monthly tickets are vaild from the 1st of the month, student weekly Sunday to Saturday Forget about the IE website it never works give the lads in Newbridge a ring 045 431219 and explain exactly what you want You will need transport from Heuston to your college, if its NCI the 90 bus goes within yards of it if so you want a monthly ticket to Dublin City Centre, one ticket only needed I know its not TCD so you will most likely need a bus. There is something called a long hop ticket which used to exist almost certainly still does and it would give you unlimited travel rail/bus eireann and Dublin Bus for everything within 30 miles of Dublin Otherwise you end up with a monthly rail ticket to Heuston and a monthly Dublin Bus ticket. Best option here to get quotes and to work out how many days a week you will be in College and weigh up the options, if I knew where you where going I might be able to be more precise Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 05-09-2006 at 22:48.

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05-09-2006, 21:55	#2
Derek Wheeler Registered user Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kildare Posts: 1,555	Cheers Philly. Our own genius technical officer will provide the info very shortly. I'm way passed student days.(despite being the spokesperson) Thanks for logging on. Keep us posted about your experiences.

06-09-2006, 19:18	#4
Philly Regular Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 43	Thanks! Was in Dublin today registering. I eventually got a quote for a student monthly ticket ~(after going being sent by customer services to tickets and back again, the guy searched out a book letting me know about the fees). It is €106 for a monthly ticket if I have the "Student Travel Card". Then a montly Bus/LUAS ticket is €64. So €170 a month to get to and all around Dublin ain't too bad, is it! Oh and as for issues: there was a leaking roof on the 8:01 from Newbridge to Heuston, if that's any good to ye! Oddly, it wasn't raining out, but water came from somewhere! My "Herald AM" got drenched!

06-09-2006, 20:02	#5
Derek Wheeler Registered user Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kildare Posts: 1,555	Surely you can buy just one monthly ticket that covers all your needs. Que oldies lament. In 1990/91, my medium hop ticket cost around £21 per week and covered unlimited travel from Naas on Bus Eireann to Dublin and then unlimited travel on Dublin Bus and Irish Rail within a certain boundary. Why the seperate tickets for rail and Bus/Luas? Going to research it. Need to.

07-09-2006, 19:55	#7
Oisin88 Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 608	Yes, that begs the question: why is there no Heuston-UCD bus? Are Dublin Bus just waiting for the two luas lines up to make the 92 (invented when the luas made the 90 look like less of an option) redundant?

07-09-2006, 23:37	#8
Derek Wheeler Registered user Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kildare Posts: 1,555	In my "college" days (christ I miss them ) BE ran a bus from Naas at 7.30 every morning, Mon-Fri, to UCD. It was open to any traveller and served the Green on the way. Used it on a frequent basis. I would say its still operating. If not, then its madness. It was a good example of visionary thinking. But then again it probably came about as a result of a CIE employee, living in Naas, with kids in UCD. Yep. Im cynical.

08-09-2006, 08:35	#9
Colm Donoghue Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 873	One of their kids musta gone to DCU later as a bus service from Naas to DCU started in 96 or 97 during my sentence there.

08-09-2006, 08:53	#10
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	There be a perfectly good bus service city UCD its called the 10, 11B, 46a, 145, 63, 84. DCU 11/a/b/c 13a and 19a, there is an assumption that unless public transport is direct that its as good as not existing at all UCD is route 126 to Newbridge via Naas once a day

08-09-2006, 09:46	#12
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	You should be able to get a Naas Dublin long hop ticket which covers all CIE services within 30 miles of Dublin Bear in mind there is only one service a day each way to UCD with Bus Eireann, fat lot of good that is

08-09-2006, 15:22	#13
Maynooth_Line Regular Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 54	There's two buses in the morning, both around 9:20 (for some strange reason) from Heuston to Belfield. They display 46E on the front but are listed on the 46A timetable. There are a few others through out the day (but not many). Do any of the X buses go by Heuston? Nearly all X buses terminate in Belfield in the morning and start there in the evening.

11-09-2006, 09:46	#15
Philly Regular Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 43	Hi again! Well I sent off my aplication for a Student Travel Card last Thursday. Hopefully I will have it by the end of the week - they promise it within 5 working days. I was told at Heuston that I can only get a monthly ticket as far as Heuston and then have to buy a combined bus and Luas ticket. As I said, I don't mind as I feel €170 is good value. Much better than the €15 a day I pay. Another question: is it true that you have to get your photo on the ticket? If so do I get my own passport photos?

11-09-2006, 10:08	#18
Philly Regular Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 43	That's weird as I specifically asked if Heuston was the farthest I could get a monthly ticket - and the man replied yes. Maybe you guys should be wording for IE - you seem to know more about their services

11-09-2006, 11:33	#20
PaulM Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 826	There is still a 46A from Heuston, I see it the odd time.