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Unread 11-07-2006, 12:50   #1
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I said he should make an announcement but he said "i already f*cking did that, I don't want 600 people asking me the same question allthe time". Charming as always - but there was no announcement, so god knows what he was on about. Maybe the speakers were out too.
They were probably on fire.
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They were probably on fire.


In fairness to the lad, he looked pretty stressed. They should have someone else on the platform telling people to move off the train though.

Something else amusing; the 3 firemen who arrived off the tender, had a very quick look under the carriage and then stood on the other track having a smoke. They legged it when the fire chief arrived.

You gotta love ireland sometimes
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Sounds like a repeat performance of the connecting rod failure

Back in the early days the 29000 had a serious design flaw in the exhaust system where the engine didn't get enough oxygen which lead to a thick exhaust made things look bad. What did happen in Skerries was a failed connecting rod in the engine which led to a piston being thrown out what was actually seen was hot exhaust gases which probably did ignite for a moment or two, its the equivalent of getting a flame out the exhaust of a high performance car. If you do a full emergency stop without the hydraulic retarders you get a really horrible burning smell since the brake disks heat up. The radiator system was holed in Skerries so there was a lot of smoke from the cooling water. The fire suppression system did not trigger, the driver did not manually activate it and he didn't empty the hand fire extinguisher either. If the fire system triggered anyone trackside would have been knee deep in foam, no foam was reported. The train didn't go on fire, it suffered a well understood mechanical failure most people are sheep and don't understand the facts and will make it sound much worse

No photos or credible evidence of a real actual fire, if there was a real fire the fire suppression system would have been triggered or manually activiated. Its operating policy to request the fire brigade attend just in case the previous post suggests there was no fire since there was no hurry, I've seen what a real fire does to a train and there wouldn't be much left of the coach if it had gone up

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From Clubcrown's description, this incident sounds very similar to the Skerries one. It doesn't sound like the fire suppression system activated here either, and the train would probably have been fit to continue with that engine shut down once the fire brigade had checked it out.

Mark, all I'm saying is that the people I spoke to believed they had seen flames, so as far as I am concerned, that part of the story is not a fabrication. It was dodgy reporting that made the leap from "people saw flames" to "the train was on fire".
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Thats the problem no one checks the facts

Said train will get a new engine and will be back in service for tonight or tomorrow. The engines are being refurbished currently so could be a failure of a refurbished model since such failures normal occur at lowish engine hours or at extremes
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Default move if this is OT re: smoke

I was getting a 29k from Rush and Lusk to Connolly at lunchtime yesterday.
When we were stoppine at the stations along the way there was a good amount of smoke/dust/whatever coming from the side of the train.
I was in the third car (wheelchair toilet one)of a 4 car train, the smoke /whatever seemed to be coming from in front of the carriage's forward doors on the non-platform side going south, so would have been platformside goint north or west.
never noticed this before maybe this was the same set that failed later. I imagine it may have looked "on Fire" if it was much worse than what I saw.
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