[article] Phoenix Park Tunnel

comcor · 09-03-2015, 13:07

Are these going to stop at Platform 10 in Heuston?

Kilocharlie · 09-03-2015, 13:48

That would be the intention but some trackwork would be required first as east bound trains cannot at present visit P10 and return to the correct track.

Mark Gleeson · 09-03-2015, 13:57

No mention of that work anywhere which is concerning.

P10 sucks if you rely on Heuston currently, need to get the 145 terminus moved down there as a starting point.

Q2/3 2016 is optimistic, Phase 2 of the resignalling will be done by then opening the 3rd platform in Grand Canal Dock, but the Tara Street/Connolly area is unlikely to be finished

berneyarms · 09-03-2015, 14:04

The plan as I understand it does include installing a crossover north of platform 10 to allow for trains bound for Grand Canal Dock to serve platform 10 and then switch tracks.

And most definitely the 145 will have to be extended up to the turning circle once more. There would still be a large volume of people leaving the train at Heuston for the immediate surrounding area and along the Quays.

shweeney · 13-03-2015, 12:30

GCD is very busy in the mornings already, with the potential for 3 trains to arrive at once when the new platform is open, are there any plans to improve access routes in the station (the bridge seems to be a real bottleneck).

Mark Gleeson · 13-03-2015, 12:48

GCD is a real problem alright. I have seen talk of an exit at the north end but nothing detailed.

It's currently close to being unsafe

Inniskeen · 14-03-2015, 09:04

Passenger flow and platform congestion are potentially an issue at all the city centre stations to one degree or another. Pearse is the best equipped to cope with additional traffic, Tara Street is restricted both in terms of platform surface area and access. Connolly likewise can be congested, particularly in respect of platform 6 & 7 arround the access ramp.

The Phoenix Park tunnel trains will probably be modestly loaded by the time they reach Grand Canal Dock but will obviously put pressure on already unsatisfactory access arrangements.

Mark Gleeson · 23-03-2015, 08:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

GCD is a real problem alright. I have seen talk of an exit at the north end but nothing detailed.

It's currently close to being unsafe

First parts of a new bridge have appeared at Grand Canal Dock

09-03-2015, 13:57	#3
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	No mention of that work anywhere which is concerning. P10 sucks if you rely on Heuston currently, need to get the 145 terminus moved down there as a starting point. Q2/3 2016 is optimistic, Phase 2 of the resignalling will be done by then opening the 3rd platform in Grand Canal Dock, but the Tara Street/Connolly area is unlikely to be finished __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

13-03-2015, 12:48	#6
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	GCD is a real problem alright. I have seen talk of an exit at the north end but nothing detailed. It's currently close to being unsafe __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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09-03-2015, 13:07	#1
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	Are these going to stop at Platform 10 in Heuston?

09-03-2015, 13:48	#2
Kilocharlie Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 395	That would be the intention but some trackwork would be required first as east bound trains cannot at present visit P10 and return to the correct track.

09-03-2015, 14:04	#4
berneyarms Really Regular Poster Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 602	The plan as I understand it does include installing a crossover north of platform 10 to allow for trains bound for Grand Canal Dock to serve platform 10 and then switch tracks. And most definitely the 145 will have to be extended up to the turning circle once more. There would still be a large volume of people leaving the train at Heuston for the immediate surrounding area and along the Quays.

13-03-2015, 12:30	#5
shweeney Regular Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 180	GCD is very busy in the mornings already, with the potential for 3 trains to arrive at once when the new platform is open, are there any plans to improve access routes in the station (the bridge seems to be a real bottleneck).

14-03-2015, 09:04	#7
Inniskeen Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 951	Passenger flow and platform congestion are potentially an issue at all the city centre stations to one degree or another. Pearse is the best equipped to cope with additional traffic, Tara Street is restricted both in terms of platform surface area and access. Connolly likewise can be congested, particularly in respect of platform 6 & 7 arround the access ramp. The Phoenix Park tunnel trains will probably be modestly loaded by the time they reach Grand Canal Dock but will obviously put pressure on already unsatisfactory access arrangements.