Train Drivers and Engineers Checking Tickets?

[grainne whale]

Originally Posted by ACustomer

Grainne Whale: your gripe is just ridiculous. There is no excuse for cheating the system and no excuse for IE not trying to enforce the rules.

Service quality and punctuality are separate issues: don't try to mix them up with fare evasion.

I've been commuting for a very long time, you get fed up with all crap passengers take from IR. (trains, more often than not, running late only to be held up again by the RPU checks, that is before you get to the validation machines at Heuston -delaying you further). This despite the fact that you have already had your ticket validated to get on the train at your local station. For God's sake all people want is to get to work on time. I have never supported fare evasion. Why don't you just run along now.

[Jamie2k9]

Originally Posted by grainne whale

I've been commuting for a very long time, you get fed up with all crap passengers take from IR. (trains, more often than not, running late only to be held up again by the RPU checks, that is before you get to the validation machines at Heuston -delaying you further). This despite the fact that you have already had your ticket validated to get on the train at your local station. For God's sake all people want is to get to work on time. I have never supported fare evasion. Why don't you just run along now.

It's IE approach over the years which has given you this attitude when it comes to ticket checks. (not an attack on you but in general this is the attitude of many) Only people who get on in Dublin City Centre have to have tickets. You can walk on at any other station in the Dublin area without a ticket and a very high chance of getting away with it.

[grainne whale]

Originally Posted by Jamie2k9

It's IE approach over the years which has given you this attitude when it comes to ticket checks. (not an attack on you but in general this is the attitude of many) Only people who get on in Dublin City Centre have to have tickets. You can walk on at any other station in the Dublin area without a ticket and a very high chance of getting away with it.

I really would not think so, for the last number of years validation machines are in stations. It's the shoddy service that has given commuters that attitude. If services were improved I can assure peoples attitude would change.

[ACustomer]

GW: If fare evasion is due to shoddy service, then why does Veolia need such a rigorous enforcement effort on the Luas when it runs a really high-quality service?

I suppose I'd better run along now, here's my bus!

[grainne whale]

Originally Posted by ACustomer

GW: If fare evasion is due to shoddy service, then why does Veolia need such a rigorous enforcement effort on the Luas when it runs a really high-quality service?

I suppose I'd better run along now, here's my bus!

I guess you had better do that, your premise is wrong.

[Colm Moore]

I'm not sure if shoddy service and fare evasion are directly related.

If people are going to evade the fare, they are going to do it whether it is a good service or not.

If service is poor, they are going to use a different mode of travel.

[grainne whale]

Originally Posted by Colm Moore

I'm not sure if shoddy service and fare evasion are directly related.

If people are going to evade the fare, they are going to do it whether it is a good service or not.

If service is poor, they are going to use a different mode of travel.

My gripe is that the company is badly run. The emphasis should be on improving the service and the punctuality. There is an amount of fare evasion but not to the extent that IR think. Having managers who are paid to manage (high salaries), checking tickets is ridiculous.