Intercity fares revision: New fares and fare structure from 4th February 2012

[Kilocharlie]

Some anomalies:

Looking at fares from Heuston Kildare

Cork-Limerick Grid - Fare E - 15.50 single, 22.50 rtn
Waterford, Galway, Westport grids - Fare E, 13.00 single, 13.20 return
Commuter Fare : 18.50 return

3 different return fares depending on the route/service.

So which fare does one pay?????

[Colm Moore]

Originally Posted by Kilocharlie

Some anomalies:

Looking at fares from Heuston Kildare

Cork-Limerick Grid - Fare E - 15.50 single, 22.50 rtn
Waterford, Galway, Westport grids - Fare E, 13.00 single, 13.20 return
Commuter Fare : 18.50 return

3 different return fares depending on the route/service.

So which fare does one pay?????

Exactly.

[Colm Moore]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...311250849.html

Most intercity rail fares rise after review
JOANNE HUNT

ALMOST TWO-THIRDS of Iarnród Éireann’s intercity fares will increase today, following changes to its fare structure.

The new structure will be simpler, replacing complex five-day return and weekend options with just three tickets types – a single, a day return, or an open return valid within 30 days of departure.

The changes will see 65 per cent of rail fares go up, 30 per cent go down and 5 per cent remain the same.

The structure will, however, end the anomaly where some single fares could cost more than a return ticket to the same destination.

The new fares are the maximum customers can be charged at train stations, while Iarnród Éireann can still offer lower cost promotional online discounts.

Fares will now also be set according to the speed of the train and the class of carriage.

The changes were approved by the National Transport Authority last month following a fare revision application made by Iarnród Éireann.

Defending the increase, Barry Kenny of Iarnród Éireann said that for fares over €25, it was the first fare revision in more than three years.

“In the last four years we’ve seen our subvention reduce by €59 million, which is about 30 per cent. We’ve reduced our costs by about €79 million, but for us to maintain our level of service, we do have to raise additional revenues.”

Under the new structure, a single fare from Dublin to Cork will decrease from €66 to € 60.

For those returning on the same day, the fare will remain at €71; for those travelling at the weekend, the five-day return ticket costing €71 has been abolished and is replaced with an open return ticket costing €77. A monthly return ticket will drop from €78.50 to €77.

Overall, the increases range up to 13 per cent on some longer distance routes, while decreases are up to 29 per cent, with the most significant price drops on Galway and Rosslare routes.

[IckyThump]

why are all the fares given to/from dublin??

im travelling waterford to limerick so the website telling me fares to/from dublin is of no use. people going cork/limerick have the same problem.

is there any way of giving all the prices online instead of just serving dublin

[karlr42]

Originally Posted by IckyThump

why are all the fares given to/from dublin??

im travelling waterford to limerick so the website telling me fares to/from dublin is of no use. people going cork/limerick have the same problem.

is there any way of giving all the prices online instead of just serving dublin

Use the journey planner for the stations you're visiting?

[Mark Gleeson]

Additional tables are in development for WRC and other routes.

Last week was a major turning point in Irish public transport, Irish Rail handed over the fares tables and made them public

For Tralee/Limerick to Cork try this http://www.railusers.ie/passenger_in..._calc_2012.php

Given that Irish Rail has now handed us the full fares matrix, that there are no 'strange' exceptions we should be able to develop point to point fares engine in a few weeks

[IckyThump]

Originally Posted by karlr42

Use the journey planner for the stations you're visiting?

i assume you mean the "Find Train Times and Buy Tickets" secton. that wont give fairs for routes that you cant book online for

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Additional tables are in development for WRC and other routes.

Last week was a major turning point in Irish public transport, Irish Rail handed over the fares tables and made them public

For Tralee/Limerick to Cork try this http://www.railusers.ie/passenger_in..._calc_2012.php

Given that Irish Rail has now handed us the full fares matrix, that there are no 'strange' exceptions we should be able to develop point to point fares engine in a few weeks

oh i didnt know that. thats great news. it really is nice to see that Irish Rail are improving alot in a short space of time. long over due but short space non the less

[Kilocharlie]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

Given that Irish Rail has now handed us the full fares matrix, that there are no 'strange' exceptions we should be able to develop point to point fares engine in a few weeks

I now see 4 different fares for Kildare. The 3 I mentioned above and now a 4th in the RUI fare calculator!

IE has Kildare-Heuston as zone E Express AND Zone E Economy but RUI has Kildare as Zone D Express.

Strange stuff still exists!

[Kilocharlie]

Originally Posted by Kilocharlie

Some anomalies:

Looking at fares from Heuston Kildare

Cork-Limerick Grid - Fare E - 15.50 single, 22.50 rtn
Waterford, Galway, Westport grids - Fare E, 13.00 single, 13.20 return
Commuter Fare : 18.50 return

3 different return fares depending on the route/service.

So which fare does one pay?????

Went to a TVM at Heuston and asked for a single to Kildare: Price - 13 Euro. The cheapest of the options above.