New 22K trains

KSW · 16-07-2011, 20:14

first class on the 22k are a joke. what i would call first call would be the enterprise service even its standard class is comfortable,has that dark lightening effect rather than the bright display on the 22k trains.
IE should upgrade their 22k 1st sets to a more higher standard.

sean · 16-07-2011, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by KSW

first class on the 22k are a joke. what i would call first call would be the enterprise service even its standard class is comfortable,has that dark lightening effect rather than the bright display on the 22k trains.
IE should upgrade their 22k 1st sets to a more higher standard.

Either that or abandon the 1st class label and just make the seats available to everyone under all circumstances. (i.e. not just the trains that have the sets but are not timetabled for first class).

The few times I've been on Sligo trains (no first class timetabled) that had them, I would only ever take the "1st class" seats for one reason - noone else had bothered with them.

FWIW I think a proper 1st class carriage would have 2+1 seating with super-wide individual seats, this at an absolute minimum. At seat catering and free wifi would not go astray either, ideally.

Jamie2k9 · 24-09-2011, 21:15

How often do IE carry out maintence/service the 2200 trains. Would of thaught at least once a week, does anybody know.

Mark Gleeson · 24-09-2011, 21:51

Basic exam should be every 48 hours, but thats basic check of all main systems and top up for fluids

It can be done in siding if needs be, but if its not done, train is not allowed to move.

Colm Moore · 24-09-2011, 21:59

There is a cycle of maintenance. Certain things will be checked after X time and/or Y distance. Different things will be checked after every 3X or 3Y, 10X or 10Y and so on for higher order issues. Then there will be more serious depot level inspections in a monthly / quarterly / annual / 5-annual cycle. Incidents or particularly harsh operating conditions may see those time periods speeded up, e.g. the cold weather the last two years say toilet systems freezing. It would have been prudent to check those systems more regularly during and after that weather.0

I imagine drivers are meant to check certain basic things everytime the loco / train is started.

I imagine sets will get a walk through once a day, with fueling and possibly lubricant added, but they can generally survive a few days before gettting back to base before issues start happening.

Jamie2k9 · 24-09-2011, 22:18

Sunday 11 Sep - 18.05 Waterford - Heuston
Monday 12 Sep - 18.35 Heuston - Waterford
Wednesday 14 Sep - 6.00 Waterford - Heuston
Sunday 18 Sep - 18.05 Waterford - Heuston
Friday 23 Sep - 16.35 Heuston - Waterford
All were same done by the same train - 6 car first class set.

Engine in carriage F not working on above services, no air con/heat, power sockets, Wheelchair toilet out of order (door doesn't close all the way). People asked for air con to be put on but were told the train had slight mechanical problems. That was on Sun 11.

Would of though they would have had it fixed by now.

On Friday the train tried to move in Nass, Athy and Muine Beag and it couldn't move for a while, were told on arrival in Waterford that the delay was due to mechanical problems.

So that around 3 weeks and none of the problems have being addressed, should something of being done by now or not.

Colm Moore · 25-09-2011, 00:37

Do you know what set it was?

dowlingm · 25-09-2011, 06:08

22037 (the one that derailed in Laois Train Depot) is out on test, no doubt as soon as it makes an appearance in service some items on the other 1st sets might be magically put on the to-fix list

Mark Gleeson · 25-09-2011, 14:14

Set 37 is still on test, it needs to make a few round trips to Cork as part of the shakedown trials as a result of being in several pieces due to the accident and also to bed in the various modifications made.

Jamie2k9 · 26-09-2011, 15:50

It was number 35 but no need to worry about it now. Operated 19.05 Heuston - Tralee and failed at Cherryville last night. They got it pulled back to Kildare to clear the line and it was still there at Kildare at 20.10.

Mark Gleeson · 26-09-2011, 20:39

I very much doubt that as it managed to get to Mallow and beyond at that point 30 minutes late, so either there is something else going on or Irish Rail executed a tow and recover and passenger swap in the time it normally takes them to realise they need to do that

The 19:25 to Limerick ran on-time and did not overtake the 19:05 to Tralee

Jamie2k9 · 26-09-2011, 22:14

We were in Kildare just after 20.00. The tralee train was on the down platform with the driver in the cab facing for Dublin. Passengers were on the train at that point. The Limerick train passed use about 5 mins after we left. Nothing on IR twitter page about it.

There was two people walking around looking at the engines to.

Our driver said sorry about the delay, was due to Tralee train failing.

2200DMU · 10-10-2011, 22:19

If all enignes on a 6 car 2200 shut down while passengers onboard do IE have a back up system for lights etc. Yesterday on the 18.05 Waterford - Heuston train completely shut down 3 times. 2 in Kilkenny and one in the middle of no where and its was pitch dark. This is the second week in a row it has happoned.

joey · 10-11-2011, 13:49

Where is the new rolling stock that was due this year?

joey · 22-11-2011, 20:43

http://www.flickr.com/photos/translinkni/

http://www.translink.co.uk/NI-Railwa...Trains-Images/

Quality, time to take the blinkers off IR.

Colm Moore · 23-11-2011, 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by joey

http://www.flickr.com/photos/translinkni/

http://www.translink.co.uk/NI-Railwa...Trains-Images/

Quality, time to take the blinkers off IR.

Interesting the way they are squashing seats in around the toilet.

Jamie2k9 · 09-01-2012, 20:24

Is 22033 in service and has the carrage that went of fire. Have yet to see it operateing as a 5 peice.

Jamie2k9 · 12-01-2012, 22:36

22033 should be back very soon. Yesterday it was taken from Portlaois - Inchicore for works.

http://thewandererphotos.smugmug.com...4984&k=FG8rrPv

Also if you click on Mark4 picture its says another 2200 was damaged recently.

Destructix · 13-01-2012, 16:49

Checked out that link and :O is this true? Please tell me it is

From http://thewandererphotos.smugmug.com...0413&k=GZmp32g

Quote:

2724 + 2715 at Ennis after arriving with the 1235 from Limerick. 2011 wasn't a good year for the 2700 Class with plans to store them in 2012, being replaced with 2800 Class displaced from Drogheda by the new 22000 Class Intercity DMU's. Sat 31.12.11

About time they get rid of them 2700

Though I still don't get why Limerick Junction-Limerick isn't intercity especially at peak times.

Colm Moore · 13-01-2012, 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destructix

Though I still don't get why Limerick Junction-Limerick isn't intercity especially at peak times.

There are direct Limerick-Dublin services that bypass LJ at peak times (15:25 16:25 17:25 ex-Dublin). With a connecting service, having the extra doors of a commuter-type train is useful.*

* Yes, they could do with doing something to keep the heat in.

24-09-2011, 21:51	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Basic exam should be every 48 hours, but thats basic check of all main systems and top up for fluids It can be done in siding if needs be, but if its not done, train is not allowed to move. __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

24-09-2011, 21:59	#5
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	There is a cycle of maintenance. Certain things will be checked after X time and/or Y distance. Different things will be checked after every 3X or 3Y, 10X or 10Y and so on for higher order issues. Then there will be more serious depot level inspections in a monthly / quarterly / annual / 5-annual cycle. Incidents or particularly harsh operating conditions may see those time periods speeded up, e.g. the cold weather the last two years say toilet systems freezing. It would have been prudent to check those systems more regularly during and after that weather.0 I imagine drivers are meant to check certain basic things everytime the loco / train is started. I imagine sets will get a walk through once a day, with fueling and possibly lubricant added, but they can generally survive a few days before gettting back to base before issues start happening. __________________

24-09-2011, 22:18	#6
Jamie2k9 Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,146	Sunday 11 Sep - 18.05 Waterford - Heuston Monday 12 Sep - 18.35 Heuston - Waterford Wednesday 14 Sep - 6.00 Waterford - Heuston Sunday 18 Sep - 18.05 Waterford - Heuston Friday 23 Sep - 16.35 Heuston - Waterford All were same done by the same train - 6 car first class set. Engine in carriage F not working on above services, no air con/heat, power sockets, Wheelchair toilet out of order (door doesn't close all the way). People asked for air con to be put on but were told the train had slight mechanical problems. That was on Sun 11. Would of though they would have had it fixed by now. On Friday the train tried to move in Nass, Athy and Muine Beag and it couldn't move for a while, were told on arrival in Waterford that the delay was due to mechanical problems. So that around 3 weeks and none of the problems have being addressed, should something of being done by now or not. Last edited by Jamie2k9 : 24-09-2011 at 22:37.

25-09-2011, 00:37	#7
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	Do you know what set it was? __________________

25-09-2011, 14:14	#9
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Set 37 is still on test, it needs to make a few round trips to Cork as part of the shakedown trials as a result of being in several pieces due to the accident and also to bed in the various modifications made. __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

16-07-2011, 20:14	#1
KSW Really Regular Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rosslare Line Posts: 600	first class on the 22k are a joke. what i would call first call would be the enterprise service even its standard class is comfortable,has that dark lightening effect rather than the bright display on the 22k trains. IE should upgrade their 22k 1st sets to a more higher standard.

24-09-2011, 21:15	#3
Jamie2k9 Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,146	How often do IE carry out maintence/service the 2200 trains. Would of thaught at least once a week, does anybody know.

25-09-2011, 06:08	#8
dowlingm Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,371	22037 (the one that derailed in Laois Train Depot) is out on test, no doubt as soon as it makes an appearance in service some items on the other 1st sets might be magically put on the to-fix list

26-09-2011, 15:50	#10
Jamie2k9 Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,146	It was number 35 but no need to worry about it now. Operated 19.05 Heuston - Tralee and failed at Cherryville last night. They got it pulled back to Kildare to clear the line and it was still there at Kildare at 20.10.

26-09-2011, 20:39	#11
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	I very much doubt that as it managed to get to Mallow and beyond at that point 30 minutes late, so either there is something else going on or Irish Rail executed a tow and recover and passenger swap in the time it normally takes them to realise they need to do that The 19:25 to Limerick ran on-time and did not overtake the 19:05 to Tralee __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

26-09-2011, 22:14	#12
Jamie2k9 Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,146	We were in Kildare just after 20.00. The tralee train was on the down platform with the driver in the cab facing for Dublin. Passengers were on the train at that point. The Limerick train passed use about 5 mins after we left. Nothing on IR twitter page about it. There was two people walking around looking at the engines to. Our driver said sorry about the delay, was due to Tralee train failing. Last edited by Jamie2k9 : 26-09-2011 at 22:18.

10-10-2011, 22:19	#13
2200DMU Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 66	If all enignes on a 6 car 2200 shut down while passengers onboard do IE have a back up system for lights etc. Yesterday on the 18.05 Waterford - Heuston train completely shut down 3 times. 2 in Kilkenny and one in the middle of no where and its was pitch dark. This is the second week in a row it has happoned.

10-11-2011, 13:49	#14
joey Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Coach A Posts: 188	New Rolling Stock Where is the new rolling stock that was due this year?

22-11-2011, 20:43	#15
joey Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Coach A Posts: 188	http://www.flickr.com/photos/translinkni/ http://www.translink.co.uk/NI-Railwa...Trains-Images/ Quality, time to take the blinkers off IR.

09-01-2012, 20:24	#17
Jamie2k9 Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,146	Is 22033 in service and has the carrage that went of fire. Have yet to see it operateing as a 5 peice.

12-01-2012, 22:36	#18
Jamie2k9 Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,146	22033 should be back very soon. Yesterday it was taken from Portlaois - Inchicore for works. http://thewandererphotos.smugmug.com...4984&k=FG8rrPv Also if you click on Mark4 picture its says another 2200 was damaged recently.

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