[13-14/07/2010] Enterprise services

chris · 13-07-2010, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

5. How the train was brought to a halt in the first place is question the line is in a curve at the point in question so the driver wouldn't have a clear line of sight and certainly wouldn't be able to stop

First of all: Christ - is it any wonder I left.

Mark, I understand from the pictures the train was travelling southbound. Is it possible the signal just north of Lurgan stopped the train? It slows every local train to a stop while the barriers come down on the Antrim Road and Lake Street. I've never been sure if it affects the Enterprise in the same way, since I'm never on the Enterprise the whole way from Belfast.

It does seem the barriers were closed correctly.

ThomasJ · 13-07-2010, 18:47

how many passengers were on this train mark?

Also with regards to the cross-border commitee can this issue be raised given there is constant disruption in lurgan before yesterdays incident

Whats the next move for passengers on that train?

chris · 13-07-2010, 18:53

http://www.u.tv/News/Trouble-flares-...e-eb091bf4d146

55 passengers

Mark Gleeson · 13-07-2010, 19:12

RTE quoted 110 on board

If luggage was stolen/damaged a passenger should apply in writing to Translink or Irish Rail under the CIV rules providing evidence that they were onboard and a statement of the loss incurred

http://www.otif.org/pdf_external/e/RU-CIV-1999-e.PDF

The only exclusion I can find in the rules applies to nuclear incidents

chris · 13-07-2010, 20:10

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0713/nor...87053,null,230

Six One said 110

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_...d/10617267.stm

BBC went with 55

Based on the very low number of people on the 11:00 ex Dublin yesterday, I'd say 55 could be the correct figure. Of course, if they can't even get that straight, then how are they going to start compensation..

ColmmacO · 14-07-2010, 09:26

Was it the locomotive that the people got into? Or the other thing at the front.
I've often seen doors open on loco's leaving connolly.

According to this mornings metro there was people standing on the track which was why the train stopped. Apparently it was a group of scouts who had there luggage taken on the train.
Personally, bar the usual lack of info and customer service, I would be fairly slow to attach blame to the rail companies for this one. It sounds like a fairly crazy occurance, not something you would expect to happen.

Mark Gleeson · 14-07-2010, 11:35

Well the cab door should have been locked...

Barry Kenny's performance on Liveline was a disgrace as he refused to provide information as to how to deal with the luggage issue.

Its not 'unforeseen', its not the first time someone got access to the cab of an enterprise service and caused trouble.

Not like Irish Rail isn't used to gangs of youths need I mention Broombridge?

13-07-2010, 19:12	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	RTE quoted 110 on board If luggage was stolen/damaged a passenger should apply in writing to Translink or Irish Rail under the CIV rules providing evidence that they were onboard and a statement of the loss incurred http://www.otif.org/pdf_external/e/RU-CIV-1999-e.PDF The only exclusion I can find in the rules applies to nuclear incidents __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

14-07-2010, 11:35	#7
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Well the cab door should have been locked... Barry Kenny's performance on Liveline was a disgrace as he refused to provide information as to how to deal with the luggage issue. Its not 'unforeseen', its not the first time someone got access to the cab of an enterprise service and caused trouble. Not like Irish Rail isn't used to gangs of youths need I mention Broombridge? __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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13-07-2010, 18:47	#2
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	how many passengers were on this train mark? Also with regards to the cross-border commitee can this issue be raised given there is constant disruption in lurgan before yesterdays incident Whats the next move for passengers on that train?

13-07-2010, 18:53	#3
chris Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 131	http://www.u.tv/News/Trouble-flares-...e-eb091bf4d146 55 passengers

13-07-2010, 20:10	#5
chris Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 131	http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0713/nor...87053,null,230 Six One said 110 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_...d/10617267.stm BBC went with 55 Based on the very low number of people on the 11:00 ex Dublin yesterday, I'd say 55 could be the correct figure. Of course, if they can't even get that straight, then how are they going to start compensation..

14-07-2010, 09:26	#6
ColmmacO Regular Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Coolmine Posts: 167	Was it the locomotive that the people got into? Or the other thing at the front. I've often seen doors open on loco's leaving connolly. According to this mornings metro there was people standing on the track which was why the train stopped. Apparently it was a group of scouts who had there luggage taken on the train. Personally, bar the usual lack of info and customer service, I would be fairly slow to attach blame to the rail companies for this one. It sounds like a fairly crazy occurance, not something you would expect to happen.