Disruption in Cork

MrX · 16-06-2008, 08:11

Well, given that they're ultimately responsible to the Minister for Transport and given that he has allowed this situation to occur and reoccur we really should be calling for his immediate resignation. He's obviously incapable of dealing with CIE and specifically with the issues that are going on at Iarnrod Eireann.

Regardless of what the internal problems are within Irish Rail, passengers are being seriously inconvenienced and it's damaging the reliability of the public transport system.

All the shiny new trains and stations in the world won't make the slightest bit of difference if the company that's operating them is so incompetent that between them they can't manage to agree a drivers roster!

Something must change a.s.a.p. and I really think it's about time the minister felt the heat on this one. He's not taking any responsibility for it. I know the CIE Unions and the whole HR issue within CIE companies are political hot potatoes that no one wants to touch, but it's about time that someone did something about it. The current situation is totally unacceptable. It can only be resolved through deep changes within CIE and a whole cultural shift out of the 19th century. This union vs management and management vs union stand off situation is simply nuts in this day and age. The management structures are clearly harking back to the Victorian era.

Mark Hennessy · 16-06-2008, 08:42

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Originally Posted by MrX

Well, given that they're ultimately responsible to the Minister for Transport and given that he has allowed this situation to occur and reoccur we really should be calling for his immediate resignation. He's obviously incapable of dealing with CIE and specifically with the issues that are going on at Iarnrod Eireann.

Agree totally but this is a large issue with government in this country as a whole. Not one politician will take responsibility for their brief.

Colm Moore · 16-06-2008, 17:12

Interestingly the DTA bill includes a section where a minister can direct a transport authourity (Irish Rail is listed as one) to settle a trade dispute.

I wonder what the current provisions are.

Mark Gleeson · 16-06-2008, 17:19

Since all services are by service level agreement and contract, if IE don't provide bye bye they can ditch them and run it themselves

Derek Wheeler · 16-06-2008, 21:47

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The above film epitomises industrial relations in Irish Rail. It was made in 1971!!!

Seriously, watch it and laugh at how similar it is to our national rail operator in terms of unions Vs management.

CARRY ON RAILWAY

Dick Fearn as W.C. Boggs
Barry Kenny as Sid Plummer
and some train driver as Vic Spanner.

16-06-2008, 08:11	#1
MrX Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 585	Well, given that they're ultimately responsible to the Minister for Transport and given that he has allowed this situation to occur and reoccur we really should be calling for his immediate resignation. He's obviously incapable of dealing with CIE and specifically with the issues that are going on at Iarnrod Eireann. Regardless of what the internal problems are within Irish Rail, passengers are being seriously inconvenienced and it's damaging the reliability of the public transport system. All the shiny new trains and stations in the world won't make the slightest bit of difference if the company that's operating them is so incompetent that between them they can't manage to agree a drivers roster! Something must change a.s.a.p. and I really think it's about time the minister felt the heat on this one. He's not taking any responsibility for it. I know the CIE Unions and the whole HR issue within CIE companies are political hot potatoes that no one wants to touch, but it's about time that someone did something about it. The current situation is totally unacceptable. It can only be resolved through deep changes within CIE and a whole cultural shift out of the 19th century. This union vs management and management vs union stand off situation is simply nuts in this day and age. The management structures are clearly harking back to the Victorian era. Last edited by MrX : 16-06-2008 at 08:14.

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Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Since all services are by service level agreement and contract, if IE don't provide bye bye they can ditch them and run it themselves __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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16-06-2008, 17:12	#3
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	Interestingly the DTA bill includes a section where a minister can direct a transport authourity (Irish Rail is listed as one) to settle a trade dispute. I wonder what the current provisions are.

16-06-2008, 21:47	#5
Derek Wheeler Registered user Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kildare Posts: 1,555	The above film epitomises industrial relations in Irish Rail. It was made in 1971!!! Seriously, watch it and laugh at how similar it is to our national rail operator in terms of unions Vs management. CARRY ON RAILWAY Dick Fearn as W.C. Boggs Barry Kenny as Sid Plummer and some train driver as Vic Spanner.