Train late

[ThomasJ]

ThomasJstamp on the point you made regarding transferring passengers, in an interview with CIE Chairman John Lynch said the following which made sort of some sense but more for your reasons than his

Extract taken from: http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/...story25645.asp (taken last august)

The increasing number of passengers using the Arklow and Gorey lines to Dublin is also proving somewhat problematic for the state company, as extending rail lines on windy coastal tracks is not practical or possible.

As a result, CIE management are considering providing a transfer service from Arklow and Gorey to Greystones for the onward journey to Dublin.

‘‘People don’t like having to change trains, but if it means we can increase the services from these areas, it is worth it,” Lynch said.

‘‘The demand on commuter lines has shot up and we are doing our best to cater for this in every way.”

[Mark Gleeson]

The Rosslare line was never designed with speed in mind, Dublin Cork and indeed Dublin Kilkenny where.

The Rosslare line is affectionately known as the damn slow and easy railway, the alternative to its correct Dublin and South Eastern Railway.

As I have stated numerous times the cost to sort out the Rosslare line is in the order of several hundred million and the return is even worse than the WRC

[ThomasJ]

But seriously mark surely there would be more on offer for gorey-rosslare passengers if their services went from bray or greystones (ie more services)

as much as people wouldn't like going to bray to get their train it cant be much worse than it already is. maybe if the three rosslare services went from dublin and there was a gorey commuter connection at bray.

[KSW]

Originally Posted by Thomas J Stamp

This entire thing is a joke. I have spoken before of stopping Rosslare Trains in Pearse,
Think about it, in any decent system the Rosslare trains would be segregated all the wway into the city,
If you have a proper singaling system,

Originally Posted by ThomasJ

It's fairly obvious that the busy DART line is having a huge impact on Gorey/Rosslare services but that is asking alot to impact on that line, what is clear is that in order to get a fast direct Rosslare train you need a clear run on the Southside DART section of about 15-20 minutes gap departing connolly.
For a non-stop train to be only 3 minutes faster than a train!!!

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

The Rosslare line was never designed with speed in mind, As I have stated numerous times the cost to sort out the Rosslare line is in the order of several hundred million and the return is even worse than the WRC

If IE had a proper system in place then they would have any of Rosslare trains changing tracks nunberous times to achieve faster jorney times from Connolly to Bray. I know it would impact on Dart's but with precise location and changing the points back correctly then I dont see that as impossible. If there was any such in place then a train from Connolly for Rosslare at 13:10 the previous train(Dart) was at 13:05 and before that 12:55 the Rosslare would travel the wrong track and change back in at Pearse this creating a by-pass of the Dart train and not having passengers at Connolly waiting for 20mins therefore waiting for max 7mins for the next Dart to Bray.... The Dart train would be at Tara Street and the Rosslare train would pass it out change back into the correct track there would be another dart at Pearse waiting for the green - Is this so hard!! etc down to Bray.. Creating 25mins for the journey.

Mark G, Of course you mentioned it a number of times on different threads but the potential is already there. I know you said by private messaging me that you cant do best times between stations but if you dont do this the line wont learn so to speak.

[Thomas J Stamp]

Originally Posted by KSW

If IE had a proper system in place then they would have any of Rosslare trains changing tracks nunberous times to achieve faster jorney times from Connolly to Bray. I know it would impact on Dart's but with precise location and changing the points back correctly then I dont see that as impossible. If there was any such in place then a train from Connolly for Rosslare at 13:10 the previous train(Dart) was at 13:05 and before that 12:55 the Rosslare would travel the wrong track and change back in at Pearse this creating a by-pass of the Dart train and not having passengers at Connolly waiting for 20mins therefore waiting for max 7mins for the next Dart to Bray.... The Dart train would be at Tara Street and the Rosslare train would pass it out change back into the correct track there would be another dart at Pearse waiting for the green - Is this so hard!! etc down to Bray.. Creating 25mins for the journey.

And what of the trains coming in the opposite direction? Too dangerous and if a railcar breaks down it'll cause chaos. DARTS also run frequently late for many reasons, and this will also make this idea unworkable.

Keith, as a regular, would you have a problem changing at Bray?

[KSW]

Originally Posted by Thomas J Stamp

Keith, as a regular, would you have a problem changing at Bray?

I would, I think the service/line would just detirorate.

[sublimity]

Why cant they put the 071 class locomotives (the new livery) on the rosslare line again hauling mk 3 carraiges,at least temporarily because it looks like the new trains won't be operating till nov/dec. I'm sick to the death of commuter trains being used on long distance journeys. I would love to see an orange intercity mk 3 train on the rosslare line (even if its only one train per day). It CAN happen if IE just see the sense.