[article] Rail Users in Ireland paying more for a weaker service

Mark Gleeson · 28-01-2008, 22:05

And of course Irish Rail don't tell anyone that these discounted fares even exist so no one in Dublin will ever know

Thomas J Stamp · 28-01-2008, 22:15

My pet theory is that historically most people went down from Dublin on Fridays and returned on Sundays - civil servants/students and the like. These would be traditional rail users. They would not get great value from seasonal tickets, they are not commuters.

Up till 8/9 years ago commuting wouldnt really exist beyond DART, Maynooth, Balbriggan, Greystones, Nass. I'd say that the fares matrix is based on this foundation and that it is adapted bit by bit when a service is tweaked and results in the nuttiness we see now.

Zonal system sorts it out.

KSW · 28-01-2008, 22:41

Word of advice it is cheaper to buy two seperate tickets than paying for a direct service!!
(i.e)Gorey to Dublin €15-30
Dublin to Carrick-on-Shannon €22-30(Correct me if I'm Wrong)
Rather than
Gorey to Carrick-on-Shannon €56 something, Again correct me if I'm wrong. Same day return thats a big difference!!

Mark Gleeson · 28-01-2008, 23:04

It all depends on the ticket clerk

Fares

Gorey Dublin is 15.30/21.00
Dublin Carrick on Shannon is 23.50/33.50

You should be able to get a ticket from Gorey to Carrick on Shannon day saver return Mon-Thurs for 38.80

There are no point to point discounts in play on either route so the system should issue the correct fare. Two tickets become cheaper when there is a specific limited discount such as the Cork Dublin 46.50 which applies to Dublin Heuston only

28-01-2008, 22:05	#1
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	And of course Irish Rail don't tell anyone that these discounted fares even exist so no one in Dublin will ever know __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

28-01-2008, 23:04	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	It all depends on the ticket clerk Fares Gorey Dublin is 15.30/21.00 Dublin Carrick on Shannon is 23.50/33.50 You should be able to get a ticket from Gorey to Carrick on Shannon day saver return Mon-Thurs for 38.80 There are no point to point discounts in play on either route so the system should issue the correct fare. Two tickets become cheaper when there is a specific limited discount such as the Cork Dublin 46.50 which applies to Dublin Heuston only __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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28-01-2008, 22:15	#2
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	My pet theory is that historically most people went down from Dublin on Fridays and returned on Sundays - civil servants/students and the like. These would be traditional rail users. They would not get great value from seasonal tickets, they are not commuters. Up till 8/9 years ago commuting wouldnt really exist beyond DART, Maynooth, Balbriggan, Greystones, Nass. I'd say that the fares matrix is based on this foundation and that it is adapted bit by bit when a service is tweaked and results in the nuttiness we see now. Zonal system sorts it out.

28-01-2008, 22:41	#3
KSW Really Regular Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rosslare Line Posts: 600	Word of advice it is cheaper to buy two seperate tickets than paying for a direct service!! (i.e)Gorey to Dublin €15-30 Dublin to Carrick-on-Shannon €22-30(Correct me if I'm Wrong) Rather than Gorey to Carrick-on-Shannon €56 something, Again correct me if I'm wrong. Same day return thats a big difference!!