17.25 Connolly to Gorey

Morgase · 21-11-2007, 09:42

It's always the same Pierce, there is an announcement that there are operational problems or something to that effect.

It was on time last night, joy of joys, so I am expecting it to be late the rest of the week as that is the usual story!

ThomasJ · 21-11-2007, 12:24

i used to hate hearing the excuse of "due to the late arrival of an incoming train at" it was heard alot but even though it seems to occur alot more with say for example 17.25 delayed because of it arriving late at maynooth, the excuse we seem to hear these days is "operational problems"

now that announcement i cant stand

KSW · 21-11-2007, 12:32

Sorry for jumping on you both, But what time do you arrive at your station. If the train arrives 25mins late does the train catch up for lost time or does it arrive over the 25mins?

ThomasJ · 21-11-2007, 12:43

If the gorey train is late do they not send DARTs (that are on time) ahead of them affecting the path of the gorey train and the time it takes and restricts the possabilty of it making up time.

Mark Gleeson · 21-11-2007, 13:54

DART's are sent out ahead to keep things moving

ThomasJ · 21-11-2007, 13:59

Right thing to do.

But am just wondering though there is a DART to Greystones around 17:40. If that was to go ahead of the Gorey train, is there a siding at Greystones for the DART to park or does the Gorey train have to wait at Bray until the DART returns from the single track area in greystones?

Mark Gleeson · 21-11-2007, 14:13

If it is badly late it normally follows the Greystones train out, Greystones has two platforms and a siding so both trains can be there at the same time. There is enough of a gap so that the train after the Greystones one isn't delayed by the Gorey train

Signalling thankfully allows two trains travelling in the same direction around Bray head so the two trains arrive Greystones one after the other

On rare occasions you can get pulled over at Grand Canal Dock to allow the train through but that normally is reserved for the evening train to Rosslare

ThomasJ · 21-11-2007, 14:19

That clears it up, thanks Mark. I haven't been out in Greystones in a very long time we are talking about ten to fifteen years and it was a sunday and I had just missed a Dublin bound train and there were only three trains, if any on the sunday heading each way. Think it was single track at the station that time.

shweeney · 21-11-2007, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasJ

If the gorey train is late do they not send DARTs (that are on time) ahead of them affecting the path of the gorey train and the time it takes and restricts the possabilty of it making up time.

yes, but they have been known to pull the Dart in between Pearse and GCD and let the Gorey train past (its rare, but it happened 2 weeks ago - I was on the Dart and wasn't particularly happy about it).

I only go as far as Greystones but I suspect there is scope for the train to make up time between there and Gorey.

Morgase · 22-11-2007, 08:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeithStephen

Sorry for jumping on you both, But what time do you arrive at your station. If the train arrives 25mins late does the train catch up for lost time or does it arrive over the 25mins?

It often makes up time between Greystones and Gorey. Not the full 25 minutes mind you.

Edward Ryan · 22-11-2007, 11:06

How late does a train have to be before passangers are entitled to a refund?

Ed

Thomas Ralph · 24-11-2007, 14:35

For a partial refund, an hour, except on the Enterprise when it is half an hour. After 2 hours (90 minutes on the Enterprise) it is a full refund. Note that all these refunds are in Iarnród Éireann vouchers and apply only to the part of your ticket that you used on that journey, so if you are 1 hour 50 late in on a standard €61 Dublin-Cork ticket, €15.25 in vouchers is all you're entitled to, and you have to submit a claim form in triplicate.

Mark Gleeson · 24-11-2007, 14:39

If you bought online you may be able to get a refund to your credit card in the event of a 100% refund, still you can't apply online for the refund

Refunds come in 1 euro denominations

IE will be legally required to issue the refund in money form under upcoming legislation

Since IE have the forms online now (well hidden) the triplicate thing is dead

Edward Ryan · 13-12-2007, 11:34

I have travelled home on the 17.25 service every night this week and the extended service is now more crowded than ever.

Monday and Wednesday the train only had 4 carrages and people were still standing after Rathdrum. Even on Tuesday when 6 carrages operated the service there was a lot more standing after Kilcoole and even after Wicklow people had to stand.

There seems to be a good 40 to 50 passangers on the train when it leaves Gorey for Enniscorthy. IE need to make the train 8 carrages or introduce the 16.40 now.

Ed

21-11-2007, 13:54	#5
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	DART's are sent out ahead to keep things moving __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

21-11-2007, 14:13	#7
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	If it is badly late it normally follows the Greystones train out, Greystones has two platforms and a siding so both trains can be there at the same time. There is enough of a gap so that the train after the Greystones one isn't delayed by the Gorey train Signalling thankfully allows two trains travelling in the same direction around Bray head so the two trains arrive Greystones one after the other On rare occasions you can get pulled over at Grand Canal Dock to allow the train through but that normally is reserved for the evening train to Rosslare __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know Last edited by Mark Gleeson : 21-11-2007 at 14:24.

24-11-2007, 14:39	#13
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	If you bought online you may be able to get a refund to your credit card in the event of a 100% refund, still you can't apply online for the refund Refunds come in 1 euro denominations IE will be legally required to issue the refund in money form under upcoming legislation Since IE have the forms online now (well hidden) the triplicate thing is dead __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

13-12-2007, 11:34	#14
Edward Ryan Regular Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gorey Posts: 74	Overcrowding on the 1725 Connolly Enniscorthy I have travelled home on the 17.25 service every night this week and the extended service is now more crowded than ever. Monday and Wednesday the train only had 4 carrages and people were still standing after Rathdrum. Even on Tuesday when 6 carrages operated the service there was a lot more standing after Kilcoole and even after Wicklow people had to stand. There seems to be a good 40 to 50 passangers on the train when it leaves Gorey for Enniscorthy. IE need to make the train 8 carrages or introduce the 16.40 now. Ed

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21-11-2007, 09:42	#1
Morgase New to the board Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 26	It's always the same Pierce, there is an announcement that there are operational problems or something to that effect. It was on time last night, joy of joys, so I am expecting it to be late the rest of the week as that is the usual story!

21-11-2007, 12:24	#2
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	i used to hate hearing the excuse of "due to the late arrival of an incoming train at" it was heard alot but even though it seems to occur alot more with say for example 17.25 delayed because of it arriving late at maynooth, the excuse we seem to hear these days is "operational problems" now that announcement i cant stand

21-11-2007, 12:32	#3
KSW Really Regular Poster Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rosslare Line Posts: 600	Sorry for jumping on you both, But what time do you arrive at your station. If the train arrives 25mins late does the train catch up for lost time or does it arrive over the 25mins?

21-11-2007, 12:43	#4
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	If the gorey train is late do they not send DARTs (that are on time) ahead of them affecting the path of the gorey train and the time it takes and restricts the possabilty of it making up time.

21-11-2007, 13:59	#6
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	Right thing to do. But am just wondering though there is a DART to Greystones around 17:40. If that was to go ahead of the Gorey train, is there a siding at Greystones for the DART to park or does the Gorey train have to wait at Bray until the DART returns from the single track area in greystones?

21-11-2007, 14:19	#8
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	That clears it up, thanks Mark. I haven't been out in Greystones in a very long time we are talking about ten to fifteen years and it was a sunday and I had just missed a Dublin bound train and there were only three trains, if any on the sunday heading each way. Think it was single track at the station that time.

22-11-2007, 11:06	#11
Edward Ryan Regular Poster Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gorey Posts: 74	How late does a train have to be before passangers are entitled to a refund? Ed

24-11-2007, 14:35	#12
Thomas Ralph IT Officer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenwich, London Posts: 1,860	For a partial refund, an hour, except on the Enterprise when it is half an hour. After 2 hours (90 minutes on the Enterprise) it is a full refund. Note that all these refunds are in Iarnród Éireann vouchers and apply only to the part of your ticket that you used on that journey, so if you are 1 hour 50 late in on a standard €61 Dublin-Cork ticket, €15.25 in vouchers is all you're entitled to, and you have to submit a claim form in triplicate.