[article] Iarnrod Eireann urged to reopen tunnel

James Shields · 24-06-2007, 02:24

Personally, I don't think running IC trains through the Interconnector would be practical from an operational viewpoint, since the whole point of the KRP is to give DART a fully segregated line through the city. If IC trains were to use it, they would have to be electrified.

There's no problem for diesel (and let's not forget, it was built for steam trains) using the PPT, as it is a much shorter tunnel, and trains do not stop at stations within the tunnel.

I believe it would be possible to build an Interconnector that could take diesel trains, but it would have to have a lot more ventilation. However, if there is a need to run trains between the Heuston and Connolly networks (for example, a Cork-Belfast service), these should use the Park tunnel.

Colm Moore · 25-06-2007, 13:14

The Interconnector will be a much longer tunnel and would likely need ventilation at intermediate points.

Mark · 26-06-2007, 08:48

Running IC trains through the interconnector would only benefit a small % of train users. Who travels Belfast to Cork direct regularly?

Thomas J Stamp · 26-06-2007, 09:11

There are those who will argue that once such a service is provided, by a Irish Rail Manager called Mr. Costner, that previously unheard of hoards of passengers will suddenly crawl out of the woodwork demanding a place and that these trains will resemble something from Calcutta.

This is, of course, bull. It is, curiously, the opposite side of the same coin we find by the enthusiasts... this time though its high speed electric trains from Belfast to Dublin. I'm not against electrification of the entire network but I don't have the facts to tell me if we have the generating capacity for it or not. What I am reasonably certain of is that there is nearly a zero demand for a train from Dublin to Cork outside of fantasy island.

Mark · 26-06-2007, 09:44

Off topic but personally I would love to see a direct Dublin to Derry route opened up. Dublin, Porterstown, Navan, Monaghan, Omagh and Derry. New alignment from Navan and double track all the way.

Mark Gleeson · 26-06-2007, 09:51

I'll ban you for that, men in white coats en route to your gaff to pick you up

Mark · 26-06-2007, 10:02

ONE ISLAND ONE RAILWAY!

Tiocfaidh ár Iarnród!

Derek Wheeler · 26-06-2007, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark

Off topic but personally I would love to see a direct Dublin to Derry route opened up. Dublin, Porterstown, Navan, Monaghan, Omagh and Derry. New alignment from Navan and double track all the way.

Engineers.

Spend more time on the chicks, cars and booze. Trust me, its better than here.

26-06-2007, 09:11	#4
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	There are those who will argue that once such a service is provided, by a Irish Rail Manager called Mr. Costner, that previously unheard of hoards of passengers will suddenly crawl out of the woodwork demanding a place and that these trains will resemble something from Calcutta. This is, of course, bull. It is, curiously, the opposite side of the same coin we find by the enthusiasts... this time though its high speed electric trains from Belfast to Dublin. I'm not against electrification of the entire network but I don't have the facts to tell me if we have the generating capacity for it or not. What I am reasonably certain of is that there is nearly a zero demand for a train from Dublin to Cork outside of fantasy island. __________________ We are the passengers

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24-06-2007, 02:24	#1
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	Personally, I don't think running IC trains through the Interconnector would be practical from an operational viewpoint, since the whole point of the KRP is to give DART a fully segregated line through the city. If IC trains were to use it, they would have to be electrified. There's no problem for diesel (and let's not forget, it was built for steam trains) using the PPT, as it is a much shorter tunnel, and trains do not stop at stations within the tunnel. I believe it would be possible to build an Interconnector that could take diesel trains, but it would have to have a lot more ventilation. However, if there is a need to run trains between the Heuston and Connolly networks (for example, a Cork-Belfast service), these should use the Park tunnel.

25-06-2007, 13:14	#2
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	The Interconnector will be a much longer tunnel and would likely need ventilation at intermediate points.

26-06-2007, 08:48	#3
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern line Posts: 1,311	Running IC trains through the interconnector would only benefit a small % of train users. Who travels Belfast to Cork direct regularly?

26-06-2007, 09:44	#5
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern line Posts: 1,311	Off topic but personally I would love to see a direct Dublin to Derry route opened up. Dublin, Porterstown, Navan, Monaghan, Omagh and Derry. New alignment from Navan and double track all the way.

26-06-2007, 09:51	#6
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	I'll ban you for that, men in white coats en route to your gaff to pick you up

26-06-2007, 10:02	#7
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern line Posts: 1,311	ONE ISLAND ONE RAILWAY! Tiocfaidh ár Iarnród!