[article] Turf War Over Broadstone

Colm Donoghue · 08-05-2007, 15:45

I think the fact IE own the land and the Dept of transport said they wouldn't rule out cpo'ing the land are telling.
What better way to get more money from one part of the govt to another and all the cut for lawyers too.

Particularly as a railway order would be the usual method of acquiring land for a railway and didn't the supreme court agree with the crusties in the Glen of the Downs about cpo's not being applicable to inter-govt land transfers. (semi-state to co. co.)

Mark Gleeson · 08-05-2007, 16:11

IE don't own the land, CIE do. Thats rather important.

If CIE refuse to play ball sure the minister can sack the board and do what he or she likes.

The CPO is issued under the transport Act. If IE tried to get a works order despite owing the land (yes I know I said CIE at the top) they would fail since its not in line with set down plans

Mark · 08-05-2007, 18:59

Technicially there's nothing to stop heavy rail using it for the Navan/Maynooth/Pace line till the interconnector is open then it being recommissioned for light rail.

In that case Kildare trains could be brought straight into Connolly and beyond while Navan/Maynooth/Pace trains could either go to Docklands or Broadstone with Luas connections.

Too many cooks though... still...

dowlingm · 08-05-2007, 20:21

Hmm... meanwhile the costs of rehabilitating Broadstone for heavy rail are tacked onto the cost of reopening to Navan, which doesn't need it.

08-05-2007, 18:59	#3
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Northern line Posts: 1,311	Technicially there's nothing to stop heavy rail using it for the Navan/Maynooth/Pace line till the interconnector is open then it being recommissioned for light rail. In that case Kildare trains could be brought straight into Connolly and beyond while Navan/Maynooth/Pace trains could either go to Docklands or Broadstone with Luas connections. Too many cooks though... still... Last edited by Mark : 08-05-2007 at 19:03.

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08-05-2007, 15:45	#1
Colm Donoghue Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 873	I think the fact IE own the land and the Dept of transport said they wouldn't rule out cpo'ing the land are telling. What better way to get more money from one part of the govt to another and all the cut for lawyers too. Particularly as a railway order would be the usual method of acquiring land for a railway and didn't the supreme court agree with the crusties in the Glen of the Downs about cpo's not being applicable to inter-govt land transfers. (semi-state to co. co.)

08-05-2007, 16:11	#2
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	IE don't own the land, CIE do. Thats rather important. If CIE refuse to play ball sure the minister can sack the board and do what he or she likes. The CPO is issued under the transport Act. If IE tried to get a works order despite owing the land (yes I know I said CIE at the top) they would fail since its not in line with set down plans

08-05-2007, 20:21	#4
dowlingm Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,371	Hmm... meanwhile the costs of rehabilitating Broadstone for heavy rail are tacked onto the cost of reopening to Navan, which doesn't need it.