contested fine to no avail.....

[ooleary]

More letters in yesterdays and todays metro - 2 people getting stuck with the 50 euro fine today. One of the letter writers was let off the fine after the Pearse staff phoned their local station where it was confirmed they had been let through without a ticket; the other letter writer boarded a train when it arrived after they had been unsuccessfully queuing for a ticket for 15 minutes in coolmine.

[Mark Gleeson]

Pattern here is people without tickets are getting done, those who have a legitimate case i.e. unstaffed or where permitted to board (as is allowed in law) by a member of staff have not been fined

As of today we are aware of ZERO people who got fined despite being legally permitted to travel without a ticket and trust me I have tried to get fined while still legal

Coolmine has a TVM a staffed office and the office in the container, I'd love to know why so many people are still buying singles and returns, its always confused me why there was a massive queue at 5:45pm in Pearse for tickets. There are 3 day tickets, 7 day and monthly and so on, you can buy your ticket the day before.

[zag]

Mark,

People buy singles because they make single journeys. If you take the train 2 or 3 seperate days in a week you can't benefit from the 3 days tickets or the 7 day ones. Bring back the 10 journey ticket. Bring in an oyster-equivalent. Using these would reduce queueing time significantly. Before I got my annual ticket (which still only makes sense with the tax relief) I used to buy my return every morning because I only used the train *some* days a week. Buying a weekly ticket went against the grain (and cost more) if I knew I was unlikely to use it both directions every day.

I didn't know you could buy your ticket the day before travelling - does that work on the TVMs ? How many people know of this ability ?

The case in Metro was very close to someone who was allowed travel without a ticket getting a fine. They only didn't get the fine because Pearse rang their origin station. If Pearse didn't have time/couldn't be bothered/wasn't their job/etc . . . then the person would have got a fine despite apparently being allowed travel from their origin without a ticket.

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[markpb]

I'd agree with that. Commuter tickets in Dublin are just for that: people who travel medium-distance, fixed routes every weekday without deviation. If you travel short distances or want to change mode, the ticket won't cover you. There's also the silly insistance (from DB and IR) that monthly tickets should run for calendar months.

I travel from Stephens Green to Sandyford every day and a weekly ticket saves me less than 3 euro. When I lived in LA, a monthly bus+rail ticket was 40 dollars (after a discount from my employers) and was available everywhere. Any bus, any train, any time in an area much larger than GDA. You can't even buy that (DB, Dart, Luas) ticket in Dublin and even if you could it would be extortionate.

[2Funki4Wheelz]

Why were 10 journey tickets binned? I remember when they were taken of Dublin Bus, they were so handy for infrequent travellers - like a primitive smart card.
Is it because they reckon people will get 10+ out of them wherever they don't get checked? I've saved on the odd 2easy DB ticket when the machine's broken.