The Cork Dublin Express Train has entered service

seamus kilcock · 30-01-2007, 13:16

Saw, what presumably was, the 0930 ex Cork crawling by Clondalkin at 1202 to-day Tuesday 30th Jan.
ETA Heuston 1225. Loads of padding!!!!
I think they are using Plat 5 for some of the Cork arrivals and it requires a switch from the up line to the down line for this. Not sure if this happens all the time?

Mark Gleeson · 30-01-2007, 14:29

There is a mystery about platform 5, we know they can only park the Cork train in P4-8, P5 is special since it is accessible from both sides of Heuston

So typically arrive via the back end and leave via the front has the least impact on other trains

The padding is really noticeable if the train runs non stop Limerick Junction - Dublin

Thomas J Stamp · 30-01-2007, 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

There is a mystery about platform 5, we know they can only park the Cork train in P4-8, P5 is special since it is accessible from both sides of Heuston

So typically arrive via the back end and leave via the front has the least impact on other trains

The padding is really noticeable if the train runs non stop Limerick Junction - Dublin

Just to make to clear to our Irish Rail fans who visit our message boards (no.2 visitor on our stats, thank you , you really ought to take out an ad) we know why the CDE HAS to use those platforms, it isn't acceptable. HOW much money did you spend on Heuston and miss that? I wouldn't have you lot rebuild my Dog Kennel

MrX · 30-01-2007, 14:43

I don't quite understand?

Why does it have to use those particular platforms?

Mark Gleeson · 30-01-2007, 14:53

So to explain this

The new Cork train has retention toilets, so the tanks need to be emptied. When Heuston was rebuilt platforms 4 through 8 where equipped to allow the tanks to be emptied, platforms 1 through 3 where not

The tanks can't be emptied in Cork when the train is in service so they must be emptied either at night in Cork or in Dublin on the turnaround.

As a result the Cork train must use a platform number 4 or greater in Heuston, this has led to some very weird delays of trains sitting in Inchicore waiting for a platform in a station which had several empty platforms

Anyone who travels on the Cork train will know the toilets are regularly locked off in several coaches

Roll on intercity railcars should be fun

Kildare Commuter · 30-01-2007, 21:45

Just to clarify, Platform 4 is accessible from both sides of the carraige shed also

Mark Gleeson · 04-02-2007, 15:36

Issue posted here some time ago

The catering PA (is situated towards the front/rear) is not software driven. The train manager manually triggers it by selecting the optional announcements screen and choosing the appropriate one from a list of about 5 or 6

So you have human error, this also explains the emergency pa I heard in December

IHIR · 05-02-2007, 10:08

I wasnt on it now, someon told me form the train but apparently the Cork - Dublin train Saturday night had to stop at Portlaoise and bus up from there. €60 for that is a disgrace, presume they are entitled to some refund?

also noted on another thread about Cork transport that there was a newspaper report stating that the Cork Midleton line was given the nod by planners after the Oral hearing (good news) but instead of being operational by 2008 (as promised ad nauseam by Marty Cullen) it might now be 2010 .......or later

30-01-2007, 13:16	#1
seamus kilcock Regular Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 103	cde 930 ex cork Saw, what presumably was, the 0930 ex Cork crawling by Clondalkin at 1202 to-day Tuesday 30th Jan. ETA Heuston 1225. Loads of padding!!!! I think they are using Plat 5 for some of the Cork arrivals and it requires a switch from the up line to the down line for this. Not sure if this happens all the time?

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30-01-2007, 14:29	#2
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	There is a mystery about platform 5, we know they can only park the Cork train in P4-8, P5 is special since it is accessible from both sides of Heuston So typically arrive via the back end and leave via the front has the least impact on other trains The padding is really noticeable if the train runs non stop Limerick Junction - Dublin

30-01-2007, 14:43	#4
MrX Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 585	I don't quite understand? Why does it have to use those particular platforms?

30-01-2007, 14:53	#5
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	So to explain this The new Cork train has retention toilets, so the tanks need to be emptied. When Heuston was rebuilt platforms 4 through 8 where equipped to allow the tanks to be emptied, platforms 1 through 3 where not The tanks can't be emptied in Cork when the train is in service so they must be emptied either at night in Cork or in Dublin on the turnaround. As a result the Cork train must use a platform number 4 or greater in Heuston, this has led to some very weird delays of trains sitting in Inchicore waiting for a platform in a station which had several empty platforms Anyone who travels on the Cork train will know the toilets are regularly locked off in several coaches Roll on intercity railcars should be fun

30-01-2007, 21:45	#6
Kildare Commuter New to the board Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 29	Just to clarify, Platform 4 is accessible from both sides of the carraige shed also

04-02-2007, 15:36	#7
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Issue posted here some time ago The catering PA (is situated towards the front/rear) is not software driven. The train manager manually triggers it by selecting the optional announcements screen and choosing the appropriate one from a list of about 5 or 6 So you have human error, this also explains the emergency pa I heard in December

05-02-2007, 10:08	#8
IHIR Regular Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 47	I wasnt on it now, someon told me form the train but apparently the Cork - Dublin train Saturday night had to stop at Portlaoise and bus up from there. €60 for that is a disgrace, presume they are entitled to some refund? also noted on another thread about Cork transport that there was a newspaper report stating that the Cork Midleton line was given the nod by planners after the Oral hearing (good news) but instead of being operational by 2008 (as promised ad nauseam by Marty Cullen) it might now be 2010 .......or later