playing music on trains

Donal Quinn · 17-12-2006, 23:19

hey
what's the deal with people playing music on trains?
seems that people can just bring on a stereo and crank it up loud as they want
is there a policy on this?

given that derek doesn't like us approaching other passengers directly - can a passenger get the ticket dude to get them to turn it off? cos usually the ticket dude will just ignore it and that doesn't seem good enough to me...

Mark Gleeson · 17-12-2006, 23:28

It is a offence and the guard or ticket checker has the right in law to intervene

Quote:

No person while upon the railway or in any vehicle shall to the annoyance of any other person or if requested not to do so by an authorised person, sing, perform on any musical or other instrument or use any gramophone, record player, tape recorder or portable wireless or television apparatus.

If train staff don't act, you know the drill, date time and train

Derek Wheeler · 18-12-2006, 01:16

[quote=Donalq;15319]
given that derek doesn't like us approaching other passengers directly [quote]

Did I say that?

Donal Quinn · 18-12-2006, 10:12

just to be clear - the offended passenger should approach a member of IE staff and not the offenders themselves? - in a previous discussion on anti-social behaviour on trains i mentioned how i had asked the scumbags to stop singing and nearly got a fat lip for my troubles - derek then said that i shouldn't approach them - he's right but what if IE staff ignore the problem (shock horror!)

issue at hand was two chaps playing music in the first class carraige of the 1800 heuston -> cork yesterday (sun 17th). they aparently had a few chats with the train manager who asked them how they were etc as the music played away!!!

Quote:

use any gramophone, record player, tape recorder or portable wireless or television apparatus.

if i have my ipod hooked up to external speakers can i tell the IE staff to go away cos i don't fall into these categories??

also what's the penalty for refusing to swtich off?

Mark Gleeson · 18-12-2006, 11:02

Talk to the train staff

The rules cover everything, its annoyance by loud music

I'm suprised the train manager didn't get them to pack it in, they can be ejected and fined don't know what the fine is but kicking them off is normally worth more

Thomas J Stamp · 20-12-2006, 11:32

Long ago as a student our class did a naughtly thing and took over a carraige on a trip to Westport, and yes we played loud music, and for some reason no-one wanted to go though our carraige to the bar. Would you believe it the guard said that the gardai were waiting for us at some station (he was lying) whihc we thought was a bit of overkill. Anyway, one of the students stood up and thanked everyone form Irish Rail and the other passengers for putting up with students from the Royal College of Surgeons.

Always wondered if they got an official complaint.

Bloody hooligans, I'd shoot them meself.

Aphfaneire · 21-12-2006, 13:33

Eh, may i asked what fantastic world you live in that there is "staff" on a train? As far as im aware all ive ever seen are ticket people or the person with the trolley on the enterprise, the staff stick to the first class, and sometimes run all the way to the back for no apparent reason as the last carrage doesnt connect to the engine

I know its risking your own life, but you either complain to their faces or turn up your personal music system, or if anyone was sensical in this world, take time and train down on their magical pen and paper, or in a blank txt, that makes more sense

Mark Gleeson · 21-12-2006, 14:58

Dublin Cork all direct trains you will find someone in a suit with a name badge walking up and down keeping an eye on things, thats the train manager

Passenger feedback has been extermely postive

All intercity services ex Heuston will have the same staffing arrangements within the next 2 years

Graham · 02-01-2007, 23:09

An interesting issue, as it annoys a lot of people yet they don't know where they stand with regard to raising it with staff.

I've endured everything from schoolgirls playing a radio out loud on their table, to a bunch of women blasting and singing along to a Robbie Williams album non-stop for two hours from Belfast to Dublin on a packed Christmas 07.00-09.00 Enterprise. That was a particularly surreal experience, as in spite of there being nearly one hundred sleepy people packed into the carriage being blasted out of it with tinny musak, not a single person risked raising the matter. It was also notable that the train manager who does at least two rounds of the train on that service, didn't appear even once.

Certain standing people singing along (rather disconcertingly including young male passengers), just may have given an alternative impression of patrons' mood - but the glowering majority quietly gnashing their teeth most certainly would have told otherwise.

17-12-2006, 23:19	#1
Donal Quinn Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 267	playing music on trains hey what's the deal with people playing music on trains? seems that people can just bring on a stereo and crank it up loud as they want is there a policy on this? given that derek doesn't like us approaching other passengers directly - can a passenger get the ticket dude to get them to turn it off? cos usually the ticket dude will just ignore it and that doesn't seem good enough to me...

20-12-2006, 11:32	#6
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	Long ago as a student our class did a naughtly thing and took over a carraige on a trip to Westport, and yes we played loud music, and for some reason no-one wanted to go though our carraige to the bar. Would you believe it the guard said that the gardai were waiting for us at some station (he was lying) whihc we thought was a bit of overkill. Anyway, one of the students stood up and thanked everyone form Irish Rail and the other passengers for putting up with students from the Royal College of Surgeons. Always wondered if they got an official complaint. Bloody hooligans, I'd shoot them meself. __________________ We are the passengers

21-12-2006, 13:33	#7
Aphfaneire Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: County louth, 6 miles from civilisation:-( Posts: 155	Eh, may i asked what fantastic world you live in that there is "staff" on a train? As far as im aware all ive ever seen are ticket people or the person with the trolley on the enterprise, the staff stick to the first class, and sometimes run all the way to the back for no apparent reason as the last carrage doesnt connect to the engine I know its risking your own life, but you either complain to their faces or turn up your personal music system, or if anyone was sensical in this world, take time and train down on their magical pen and paper, or in a blank txt, that makes more sense __________________ Commuting is my extra 50 minutes of sleep

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18-12-2006, 01:16	#3
Derek Wheeler Registered user Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kildare Posts: 1,555	[quote=Donalq;15319] given that derek doesn't like us approaching other passengers directly [quote] Did I say that?

18-12-2006, 11:02	#5
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Talk to the train staff The rules cover everything, its annoyance by loud music I'm suprised the train manager didn't get them to pack it in, they can be ejected and fined don't know what the fine is but kicking them off is normally worth more

21-12-2006, 14:58	#8
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Dublin Cork all direct trains you will find someone in a suit with a name badge walking up and down keeping an eye on things, thats the train manager Passenger feedback has been extermely postive All intercity services ex Heuston will have the same staffing arrangements within the next 2 years

02-01-2007, 23:09	#9
Graham New to the board Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: crawling behind a DART Posts: 25	An interesting issue, as it annoys a lot of people yet they don't know where they stand with regard to raising it with staff. I've endured everything from schoolgirls playing a radio out loud on their table, to a bunch of women blasting and singing along to a Robbie Williams album non-stop for two hours from Belfast to Dublin on a packed Christmas 07.00-09.00 Enterprise. That was a particularly surreal experience, as in spite of there being nearly one hundred sleepy people packed into the carriage being blasted out of it with tinny musak, not a single person risked raising the matter. It was also notable that the train manager who does at least two rounds of the train on that service, didn't appear even once. Certain standing people singing along (rather disconcertingly including young male passengers), just may have given an alternative impression of patrons' mood - but the glowering majority quietly gnashing their teeth most certainly would have told otherwise.