P11 News Item. "Maps are Back."

[Mark Gleeson]

The map is copyright

Well we have a copy of the July draft http://www.platform11.org/images/july2006_draft_map.jpg

[MrX]

And they wonder why Cork keeps trying to declare an independent republic!

I remember the good old days (1990s) when we used to get clapped out dublin busses with not even a vague attempt to debrand the interiors.

Also remember being several that actually caught fire due to their clapped out engines being unable to negociate hills.

The attitude that CIE takes to Cork commuters is an utter disgrace. I am very much in favour of a cork transport authority.

[comcor]

Originally Posted by MrX

And they wonder why Cork keeps trying to declare an independent republic!

I remember the good old days (1990s) when we used to get clapped out dublin busses with not even a vague attempt to debrand the interiors.

Even crazier is that the adverts in the trains are the Dublin adverts. Now it seems to me

• If I was a Dublin advertiser I'd be a bit pissed off if the advert I'd paid for was being shown to people travelling between Cork and Mallow
• Irish Rail are losing a potential source of income by not selling advertising specific to the Cork routes

In fact with the second of these points, it might make sense to have certain rolling stock tied to certain routes in Dublin to help with more focussed adverts and greater revenue from them.

[MrX]

IE get something right?

Are you quite mad?

It's simply not going to happen. I've accepted that a long time ago.

[shweeney]

new map is an improvement on the old one but still not great - it looks messy, the lines don't line up and the docklands "branch" seems to have been added in as an afterthought.

I know they're restricted by the oblong shape, but there's got to be a better way of depicting the network

*fires up Visio*

[Mark Gleeson]

Well the map is incorrect if you look carefully at the Dockland station it should branch below the Maynooth line as it does in reality

The original map as in the 1980 something was a straight line more or less, that worked fine until Kildare local services appeared and the Maynooth line got a heap of stations. It lasted in a more jazzy format until just after Malahide went DART

I might be dreaming but I think they had two different maps back then (the second was a flopped version of the first) so Howth was always at the Howth end of the train regardless of which side you looked at

It not just the DART maps

Prize for the first person to find Monestervin on a map in a Mk3 or Mk2 coach, might want to find Ennis as well

[markpb]

Am I the only one who'd prefer a schematic diagram like other cities use instead of a mixture of a schematic superimposed a bad drawing of Dublin? The existing maps are too small to actually be useful but as another poster has pointed out, they're constrained by space.

What I'd like to see is a list of the stops on the current route. Black line, black writing, white background, terribly simple and easy to read. Someone else on the train, there'd be an A3 drawing of the system map, again in schematic form.

[Mark Gleeson]

Originally Posted by comcor

[*]If I was a Dublin advertiser I'd be a bit pissed off if the advert I'd paid for was being shown to people travelling between Cork and Mallow.

Well Titan have the contract there problem, the ads are not changed in Cork in fact there shouldn't be any left on board by now, the Cork and Limerick fleets are dedicated

Originally Posted by comcor

[*]Irish Rail are losing a potential source of income by not selling advertising specific to the Cork routes

That be Titans problem looking at 8 million journeys pa in Cork by 2016 so I'm sure they will cop on to it