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Unread 16-07-2011, 20:14   #21
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first class on the 22k are a joke. what i would call first call would be the enterprise service even its standard class is comfortable,has that dark lightening effect rather than the bright display on the 22k trains.
IE should upgrade their 22k 1st sets to a more higher standard.
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Unread 16-07-2011, 23:11   #22
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first class on the 22k are a joke. what i would call first call would be the enterprise service even its standard class is comfortable,has that dark lightening effect rather than the bright display on the 22k trains.
IE should upgrade their 22k 1st sets to a more higher standard.
Either that or abandon the 1st class label and just make the seats available to everyone under all circumstances. (i.e. not just the trains that have the sets but are not timetabled for first class).

The few times I've been on Sligo trains (no first class timetabled) that had them, I would only ever take the "1st class" seats for one reason - noone else had bothered with them.

FWIW I think a proper 1st class carriage would have 2+1 seating with super-wide individual seats, this at an absolute minimum. At seat catering and free wifi would not go astray either, ideally.

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Unread 24-09-2011, 21:15   #23
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How often do IE carry out maintence/service the 2200 trains. Would of thaught at least once a week, does anybody know.
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Unread 24-09-2011, 21:51   #24
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Basic exam should be every 48 hours, but thats basic check of all main systems and top up for fluids

It can be done in siding if needs be, but if its not done, train is not allowed to move.
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Unread 24-09-2011, 21:59   #25
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There is a cycle of maintenance. Certain things will be checked after X time and/or Y distance. Different things will be checked after every 3X or 3Y, 10X or 10Y and so on for higher order issues. Then there will be more serious depot level inspections in a monthly / quarterly / annual / 5-annual cycle. Incidents or particularly harsh operating conditions may see those time periods speeded up, e.g. the cold weather the last two years say toilet systems freezing. It would have been prudent to check those systems more regularly during and after that weather.0

I imagine drivers are meant to check certain basic things everytime the loco / train is started.

I imagine sets will get a walk through once a day, with fueling and possibly lubricant added, but they can generally survive a few days before gettting back to base before issues start happening.
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Unread 24-09-2011, 22:18   #26
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Sunday 11 Sep - 18.05 Waterford - Heuston
Monday 12 Sep - 18.35 Heuston - Waterford
Wednesday 14 Sep - 6.00 Waterford - Heuston
Sunday 18 Sep - 18.05 Waterford - Heuston
Friday 23 Sep - 16.35 Heuston - Waterford
All were same done by the same train - 6 car first class set.

Engine in carriage F not working on above services, no air con/heat, power sockets, Wheelchair toilet out of order (door doesn't close all the way). People asked for air con to be put on but were told the train had slight mechanical problems. That was on Sun 11.

Would of though they would have had it fixed by now.

On Friday the train tried to move in Nass, Athy and Muine Beag and it couldn't move for a while, were told on arrival in Waterford that the delay was due to mechanical problems.

So that around 3 weeks and none of the problems have being addressed, should something of being done by now or not.

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Unread 25-09-2011, 00:37   #27
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Do you know what set it was?
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Unread 25-09-2011, 06:08   #28
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22037 (the one that derailed in Laois Train Depot) is out on test, no doubt as soon as it makes an appearance in service some items on the other 1st sets might be magically put on the to-fix list
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Unread 25-09-2011, 09:45   #29
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There are 9 serviceable 6 coach with first sets, 5 others without first

Those issues are not sufficient to withdraw a set from service, 6 coach sets are allowed to travel with an engine out and there is little rush to fix

Now if its confirmed as being the same train there is no way it should be allowed to stay in service that long carrying all those issues
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Unread 25-09-2011, 10:31   #30
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22037 (the one that derailed in Laois Train Depot) is out on test, no doubt as soon as it makes an appearance in service some items on the other 1st sets might be magically put on the to-fix list
Not that set, It operated the 16.30 to Galway on Firday. Any reason why its still on test, its always being grand when I have being on it.

Have the number wrote down somewhere but its either 22035 ot 22036.
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Unread 25-09-2011, 12:21   #31
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Not that set, It operated the 16.30 to Galway on Firday. Any reason why its still on test, its always being grand when I have being on it.

Have the number wrote down somewhere but its either 22035 ot 22036.
I don't think 22037 is back in traffic yet. It's still being tested. It would have been grand before it was derailed! Obviously it has to be put through said testing for various reasons
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Unread 25-09-2011, 14:14   #32
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Set 37 is still on test, it needs to make a few round trips to Cork as part of the shakedown trials as a result of being in several pieces due to the accident and also to bed in the various modifications made.
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Unread 26-09-2011, 15:50   #33
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It was number 35 but no need to worry about it now. Operated 19.05 Heuston - Tralee and failed at Cherryville last night. They got it pulled back to Kildare to clear the line and it was still there at Kildare at 20.10.
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Unread 26-09-2011, 20:39   #34
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I very much doubt that as it managed to get to Mallow and beyond at that point 30 minutes late, so either there is something else going on or Irish Rail executed a tow and recover and passenger swap in the time it normally takes them to realise they need to do that

The 19:25 to Limerick ran on-time and did not overtake the 19:05 to Tralee
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Unread 26-09-2011, 22:14   #35
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We were in Kildare just after 20.00. The tralee train was on the down platform with the driver in the cab facing for Dublin. Passengers were on the train at that point. The Limerick train passed use about 5 mins after we left. Nothing on IR twitter page about it.

There was two people walking around looking at the engines to.

Our driver said sorry about the delay, was due to Tralee train failing.

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Unread 10-10-2011, 22:19   #36
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If all enignes on a 6 car 2200 shut down while passengers onboard do IE have a back up system for lights etc. Yesterday on the 18.05 Waterford - Heuston train completely shut down 3 times. 2 in Kilkenny and one in the middle of no where and its was pitch dark. This is the second week in a row it has happoned.
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Where is the new rolling stock that was due this year?
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Unread 10-11-2011, 13:57   #38
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Arrived already, currently on test
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Unread 11-11-2011, 03:22   #39
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Why can't they designate some of these for the Limerick Junction-Limerick line and either scrap/burn/sell/crush/bury/give-away them torturous 2700's

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Unread 22-11-2011, 20:34   #40
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are these just the 22k intercity or are we talking new commuter trains? seems to be more and more 22k inter city cars doing commuter routes...
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