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Unread 22-05-2008, 13:43   #21
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10:30 out of Cork is a Dublin driver, drives the 7:00 to Cork then the 10:30 back

It looks like this is going to be a real mess but you really have to question the sanity of IE management since they knew the outcome of their actions would result in a serious number of cancellations

Bear in mind Irish Rail management are now in breach of their obligations to provide a public transport service and also are in multiple breaches of the service level agreements
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Unread 22-05-2008, 13:46   #22
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Would a Dublin driver "cross the picketline" of cork drivers by driving the train all the way into cork?
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Unread 22-05-2008, 13:48   #23
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Update

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Cork & Kerry area service disruptions, Thursday 22nd May, industrial action by Corporate Communications


UPDATE: 14.40hrs, Thursday 22nd May

Iarnród Éireann advises customers that a refusal by drivers based in Cork to work their normal rosters has potential to cause disruption to rail services in the Cork & Kerry areas.

The stoppage by drivers commenced following a refusal by a Cork-based driver to drive his train within his core roster this morning, to facilitate training of new trainee drivers.

Services which are not operating are:

- 11.00hrs Heuston to Cork

- 13.30hrs Cork to Heuston

- 14.30hrs Cork to Heuston

- 15.30hrs Cork to Heuston

- 16.30hrs Cork to Heuston

- 17.30hrs Cork to Heuston

- 18.00hrs Heuston to Cork

- 18.30hrs Heuston to Cork

- 19.00hrs Heuston to Cork

- 20.00hrs Heuston to Cork

- 21.00hrs Heuston to Cork

- Cork commuter services (Cork/Cobh, Cork/Mallow)

Iarnród Éireann is endeavouring to provide bus transfers for customers on affected services.

The following services are expected to operate, to and from Mallow only. Bus transfers will operate between Mallow and Cork.

14.00hrs, 15.00hrs, 16.00hrs 17.00hrs Heuston to Cork services 18.30hrs, 19.30hrs and 20.30hrs Cork to Heuston services

All other rail services on other routes are unaffected.

Full updated service information will be updated on this website. Iarnród Éireann apologises to customers for the inconvenience caused.
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Unread 22-05-2008, 13:48   #24
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There ain't no picket line, no strike, the problem in Cork is there won't be a driver to move the train around when it arrives, the pilot driver was the first to be sent home
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Unread 22-05-2008, 14:26   #25
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From breakingnews.ie

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhgbmhaugbgb/

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Rail dispute hits thousands of passengers

22/05/2008 - 14:39:55

Travel plans of thousands of rail passengers were disrupted following the cancellation of the Cork-Dublin services due to industrial action by train drivers.

All trains from Kent Station in Cork to Dublin were cancelled until 5.30pm this evening with further disruption expected later.

Dublin to Cork services were cancelled from 6pm.

The 6.30 Dublin to Tralee train was also cancelled and Cork commuter routes were affected.

Iarnród Eireann has warned that it would not be able to provide bus transfers to accommodate all passengers.

The dispute centres on drivers rosters.
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Unread 22-05-2008, 14:57   #26
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RTE seems to have Made a mess of this note the area highlighted. (not mentioned on irish rail website)

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Cork rail services disrupted
Thursday, 22 May 2008 15:35
Iarnród Éireann has said that a refusal by drivers based in Cork to work their normal rosters may cause disruption to rail services in the Cork area.

The company said a driver refused to drive his train this morning, to facilitate training of new drivers.


Services not operating:

11.00hrs Heuston to Cork
- 13.30hrs Cork to Heuston
- 14.30hrs Cork to Heuston
- 15.30hrs Cork to Heuston
- 16.30hrs Cork to Heuston
- 17.30hrs Cork to Heuston
- 18.00hrs Heuston to Cork
- 18.30hrs Heuston to Cork
- 19.00hrs Heuston to Cork
- 20.00hrs Heuston to Cork
- 21.00hrs Heuston to Cork
- Cork commuter services (Cork/Cobh, Cork/Mallow)

Iarnród Éireann is hoping to provide bus transfers for customers on affected services.

The following services are expected to operate, to and from Mallow only with bus transfers between Mallow and Cork:
- 14.00hrs
- 15.00hrs
- 16.00hrs
- 17.00hrs

Heuston to Cork services:
18.30hrs
19.30hrs

Cork to Heuston services:
20.30hrs

All other rail services on other routes are unaffected.
Full updated service information will be updated on the Iarnród Éireann website.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0522/rail.html
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Unread 22-05-2008, 15:11   #27
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Update on my father. He was actually going to go from Dublin from Mallow, hoping to get the train that leaves Cork at 10:30. He called up the station in Mallow about 20 minutes ago, not knowing what was going on, to buy a ticket for tomorrow. He was advised not to buy it and keep an eye on the news tonight and in the morning.

With a flight a 4pm, its really a catch 22 tomorrow morning. Because he will have to make the decision to drive at about 8:30 tomorrow morning.
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Unread 22-05-2008, 15:25   #28
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Iarnród Eireann has warned that it would not be able to provide bus transfers to accommodate all passengers.
It goes to show that for all the issues in which it resulted in bus transfers costing the company dearly that an agreement with Bus Eireann might help IE.
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Unread 22-05-2008, 15:30   #29
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Update on RTE Website:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0522/rail.html

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Cork rail services disrupted
Thursday, 22 May 2008 16:04
Train services between Dublin and Cork have been cancelled because of a dispute between Iarnród Éireann and its train drivers.

Iarnród Éireann said drivers have refused to work their rosters, after one of them refused to facilitate training of new drivers.

The company has cancelled six Dublin to Cork services and five Cork to Dublin services.

Cork commuter services to Cobh and Mallow are also not operating.

Iarnród Éireann said it was trying to provide bus services for customers on affected services.

Iarnród Éireann spokesman Barry Kenny says the company is pessimistic about the dispute being resolved in the short term and services are likely to be affected again tomorrow.

Services not operating today:

- 11.00hrs Heuston to Cork
- 13.30hrs Cork to Heuston
- 14.30hrs Cork to Heuston
- 15.30hrs Cork to Heuston
- 16.30hrs Cork to Heuston
- 17.30hrs Cork to Heuston
- 18.00hrs Heuston to Cork
- 18.30hrs Heuston to Cork
- 19.00hrs Heuston to Cork
- 20.00hrs Heuston to Cork
- 21.00hrs Heuston to Cork
- Cork commuter services (Cork/Cobh, Cork/Mallow)

Iarnród Éireann is hoping to provide bus transfers for customers on affected services.

The following services are expected to operate, to and from Mallow only with bus transfers between Mallow and Cork:
- 14.00hrs
- 15.00hrs
- 16.00hrs
- 17.00hrs

Heuston to Cork services:
18.30hrs
19.30hrs

Cork to Heuston services:
20.30hrs

All other rail services on other routes are unaffected.
Full updated service information will be updated on the Iarnród Éireann website.

RTÉ is not responsible for the content of external websites
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Unread 22-05-2008, 15:36   #30
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Exclamation [23-5-2008] All services at risk

As of Friday May 23rd there is likely to be widespread cancellations

Services may run in the morning and then disappear, if you are looking to travel tomorrow, travel early or make alternative arrangements asap

All services Cork area and most Cork Dublin cancelled
All services Heuston likely to cancelled
All services Galway likely to cancelled

DART services are also at risk

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Unread 22-05-2008, 15:38   #31
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Linked to the Cork situation Mark?

How come DARTs?
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Unread 22-05-2008, 16:03   #32
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Updated

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Cork & Kerry area service disruptions, Thursday 22nd May, industrial action by Corporate Communications


UPDATE: 16,50hrs, Thursday 22nd May

Iarnród Éireann advises customers that a refusal by drivers based in Cork to work their normal rosters is causing disruption to rail services in the Cork & Kerry areas.

The stoppage by drivers commenced following a refusal by a Cork-based driver to drive his train within his core roster this morning, to facilitate training of new trainee drivers.

Services which are not operating are:

- 11.00hrs Heuston to Cork

- 13.30hrs Cork to Heuston

- 14.30hrs Cork to Heuston

- 15.30hrs Cork to Heuston

- 16.30hrs Cork to Heuston

- 17.30hrs Cork to Heuston

- 18.00hrs Heuston to Cork

- 18.30hrs Heuston to Tralee

- 19.00hrs Heuston to Cork

- 20.00hrs Heuston to Cork

- 21.00hrs Heuston to Cork

- Cork commuter services (Cork/Cobh, Cork/Mallow)

Iarnród Éireann is endeavouring to provide bus transfers for customers on affected services.

The following services are expected to operate, to and from Mallow only. Bus transfers will operate between Mallow and Cork.

14.00hrs, 15.00hrs, 16.00hrs 17.00hrs Heuston to Cork services

18.30hrs, 19.30hrs and 20.30hrs Cork to Heuston services

All other rail services on other routes are unaffected.

Friday 23rd May: Service information will be updated for Friday 23rd May as soon as it becomes available. However, Iarnróed Éireann regrets that it is expected that significant disruption will continue into tomorrow.
Full updated service information will be updated on this website. Iarnród Éireann apologises to customers for the inconvenience caused.
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Unread 22-05-2008, 16:24   #33
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Default [23-5-2008] All services at risk

Well be fairly sure there won't be a 5:15 or 6:30 out of Cork tomorrow
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Unread 22-05-2008, 16:31   #34
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Im at Heuston now was meant to be going down to Cork on the 1800 didnt know anything about the problems till i got here and read a small notice on the display board, though there are also announcements every 10 minutes or so. Killarney, Farranfore and Tralee passengers were being sent to Limerick on the 1725 for bus transfer, now that its gone they and people for every where else south of Thurles are being put on the 1835 to Thurles, with bus connections from there. Its going to be a long evening.

Luckily the staff at the info desk do have a ready supply of refund forms.
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Unread 22-05-2008, 16:36   #35
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Anyone with a reservation is entitled to a full refund if any part of the journey requires a bus

There are no trains south of Thurles, 18:35 last train beyond Portarlington
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is it CTC boys going out on the picket or drivers ?
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where's my old ILDA t-shirt ?
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Unread 22-05-2008, 18:57   #38
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There shall be no picket

All drivers who have not been struck off the payroll are reporting for work as normal

At this point few if any trains country wide are likely to operate tomorrow
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Unread 22-05-2008, 19:17   #39
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You got to admire the confidence that there will be a service tomorrow morning. There won't be any train turning a wheel in Cork station tomorrow



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Cork & Kerry area service disruptions, Thursday 22nd & Friday 23rd May, industrial action by Corporate Communications

UPDATE: 19.30hrs, Thursday 22nd May

Iarnród Éireann advises customers that a refusal by drivers based in Cork to work their normal rosters is causing significant disruption to rail services in the Cork & Kerry areas.

The stoppage by drivers commenced following a refusal by a Cork-based driver to drive his train within his core roster this morning, to facilitate training of new trainee drivers.


Friday 23rd May

It is expected that service disruption will continue on Friday 23rd May.

While exact details will be confirmed in the morning, it is likely that all services from Cork to Heuston up to and including the 09.30hrs Cork to Heuston service will be cancelled.

10.30hrs and 11.30hrs Cork to Heuston are expected to operate from Mallow only, with bus transfers from Cork to Mallow.

The 07.00hrs and 08.00hrs Heuston to Cork are likely to operate to Mallow only, with bus transfers from Mallow to Cork. The remainder of morning services are expected to be cancelled.

All Cork/Cobh and Cork/Mallow commuter services are expected to be cancelled, and customers are advised to make alternative arrangements.

Some Cork/Tralee services are expected to be cancelled, with others operating between Tralee and Mallow only.
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Unread 22-05-2008, 20:06   #40
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I demand proof of your ridiculous claim of no trains running at all tomorrow. As far as I can see RUI are making this up to make Irish Rail look bad (worse)
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