New ticket barriers "suck"

Aphfaneire · 21-12-2006, 13:43

I know this is probably discussed somewhere else and falls under the wonderful dream of intergrated ticketing. But last week i had exams in the rds for college so i was happy i knew the 7 o'clock from drogheda stoped at landsdown road. I was all happy, i had my weekly ticket but it had been bought in connolly on tuesday for drogheda, and not monday for pearse by default as usual. I didnt think that mattered, but how was i wrong, cie got something right and has a barrier in place in landsdown that i cant get through with my ticket

Several swipes, a confused look at an unattentive ticket desk person and then i thought **** it and climbed down the ramp at the end of the platform and walked out on the level crossing. And i did this the next day aswell.

Im sorry if im exceeding my stop but i have no other way of getting to my exams, and i dont work so my parents arent going to fork out a couple of euro to hop 2 stops past the normal limit of the commuter. Barriers maybe smart, but i prefare the walking through an open gate with a semi-valid ticket pointed at the face of someone not even looking at me, is this too much to ask?

sean · 21-12-2006, 14:05

yes it is.

Mark Gleeson · 21-12-2006, 14:50

Well you can't blame the barrier for not opening is the ticket is not valid

packetswitch · 21-12-2006, 19:03

You could just pay the fare. We've all had exams (indeed some of us in the dreaded RDS, which I HATED) and that's not recognised in the conditions of carriage as a valid reason for freeloading

That said, though, you raise a good point, and the answer is perhaps a Smart Card system...in about 40 years time of course. The Oyster card in London allows you to load on your Travelcard but also to have 'normal' fares. I assume there's a good reason why you can't even put a Luas monthly ticket on the Luas smart card, other than general incompetence?

Mark Gleeson · 21-12-2006, 19:07

The RDS sucks while the Mansion house felt like a upgrade

Quote:

Originally Posted by packetswitch

I assume there's a good reason why you can't even put a Luas monthly ticket on the Luas smart card, other than general incompetence?

That would be just too much a good idea

The trick of course is the system automatically gives you a monthly ticket once you reach a certain point thus avoiding the what if I don't travel often enough issue with monthly tickets, thats really the only current benefit of a smart card which the RPA can't understand

packetswitch · 21-12-2006, 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

The trick of course is the system automatically gives you a monthly ticket once you reach a certain point thus avoiding the what if I don't travel often enough issue with monthly tickets, thats really the only current benefit of a smart card which the RPA can't understand

That's another great feature of Oyster! So even if you don't put on a prepaid ticket/pass, and just start a day as normal, if you get to a point that is

(Total of trips so far) > ((Travelcard for the zones you've been in) - (50p))

you get a retrospective day travelcard (I don't think it works for more than a day yet, although I've only been in london for a few days at a time).

(e.g. say that a zone 1-2 one-day off peak travelcard is £4.90, once your running total of trips reaches £4.40 it stops charging).

Mark Gleeson · 22-12-2006, 10:22

Its such a simple idea, so easy implement

Colm Donoghue · 22-12-2006, 11:04

You're talking about an organisation that thinks integrated ticketing is to launch a smart card for a private bus company, then launch another smartcard system for a tram company, these two systems not being comaptible with each other.

James Shields · 22-12-2006, 15:39

Drogheda to City Centre definitely covers you as far as Lansdowne Road, so your ticket ought to be valid. You may have to explicitly request "Lansdowne Road" as the destination on your weekly/monthly pass, rather than Connolly. I guess it's something we're all going to have to be more careful about, because it looks like exit validation is here to stay.

I agree the Oyster card is a fantastic system, but it wouldn't be a fraction as good if wasn't for the work Pick and Ashfield had done in the 1920s and 30s incorporating lots of disparate transport companies into an integrated London Transport. London already had a tightly integrated system, and Oyster just tied up the loose ends.

21-12-2006, 13:43	#1
Aphfaneire Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: County louth, 6 miles from civilisation:-( Posts: 155	New ticket barriers "suck" I know this is probably discussed somewhere else and falls under the wonderful dream of intergrated ticketing. But last week i had exams in the rds for college so i was happy i knew the 7 o'clock from drogheda stoped at landsdown road. I was all happy, i had my weekly ticket but it had been bought in connolly on tuesday for drogheda, and not monday for pearse by default as usual. I didnt think that mattered, but how was i wrong, cie got something right and has a barrier in place in landsdown that i cant get through with my ticket Several swipes, a confused look at an unattentive ticket desk person and then i thought **** it and climbed down the ramp at the end of the platform and walked out on the level crossing. And i did this the next day aswell. Im sorry if im exceeding my stop but i have no other way of getting to my exams, and i dont work so my parents arent going to fork out a couple of euro to hop 2 stops past the normal limit of the commuter. Barriers maybe smart, but i prefare the walking through an open gate with a semi-valid ticket pointed at the face of someone not even looking at me, is this too much to ask? __________________ Commuting is my extra 50 minutes of sleep

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21-12-2006, 14:05	#2
sean Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dublin Posts: 707	yes it is.

21-12-2006, 14:50	#3
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Well you can't blame the barrier for not opening is the ticket is not valid

21-12-2006, 19:03	#4
packetswitch Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 216	You could just pay the fare. We've all had exams (indeed some of us in the dreaded RDS, which I HATED) and that's not recognised in the conditions of carriage as a valid reason for freeloading That said, though, you raise a good point, and the answer is perhaps a Smart Card system...in about 40 years time of course. The Oyster card in London allows you to load on your Travelcard but also to have 'normal' fares. I assume there's a good reason why you can't even put a Luas monthly ticket on the Luas smart card, other than general incompetence?

22-12-2006, 10:22	#7
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Its such a simple idea, so easy implement

22-12-2006, 11:04	#8
Colm Donoghue Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 873	You're talking about an organisation that thinks integrated ticketing is to launch a smart card for a private bus company, then launch another smartcard system for a tram company, these two systems not being comaptible with each other.

22-12-2006, 15:39	#9
James Shields Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Drogheda, Ireland Posts: 1,275	Drogheda to City Centre definitely covers you as far as Lansdowne Road, so your ticket ought to be valid. You may have to explicitly request "Lansdowne Road" as the destination on your weekly/monthly pass, rather than Connolly. I guess it's something we're all going to have to be more careful about, because it looks like exit validation is here to stay. I agree the Oyster card is a fantastic system, but it wouldn't be a fraction as good if wasn't for the work Pick and Ashfield had done in the 1920s and 30s incorporating lots of disparate transport companies into an integrated London Transport. London already had a tightly integrated system, and Oyster just tied up the loose ends.