non slip surfaces at platforms

tigger1962 · 18-01-2008, 20:19

I did a search on this and was surprised it wasn't mentioned before (or maybe it has and has been outdated). The tiling used in some of the IE Stations are downright dangerous when they get wet!! I particularly noticed it this morning in connolly that many people where coming close to slipping on these tiles. ( I did see one person fall) For IE's part a small sign and a few mats were put out but I don't see why a non slip surface is not laid in these areas... This also happens in pearse and a few other stations. Warning notices are put to to say the tiles are slippery but surely IE have a duty of care to make sure that these surfaces are not a safety hazard which they clearly are. I did note that at the (late) arrival of the 2.10 enterprise today they made passengers use an alternate exit from platform two I'm presuming it was because of the slippery floor as this tiled surface was extremely treacherous this morning!! Are there any regulations for this or has anyone even sued IE for falling on this type of surface

Rashers · 18-01-2008, 22:26

I agree. Water seems to sit on the platform tiles. I'm sure they've had a few passenger accident/slippage claims, so I'm surprised they have not bothered to correct it. Whoever ordered those tiles should have been spoken too...many are cracked, and completely unsuitable for the 'semi' air.

zag · 18-01-2008, 23:00

I got a DART from today for the first time in ages and I noticed the same thing. I had to walk gingerly along whatever the platform is in the main building to make my way along to the DART. It was not a good surface at all. I saw some sort of ready-up mop thing propped up against a wall - it looked like sheets of paper which were pushed around to dry the surface.

z

chris · 18-01-2008, 23:31

By 15:00 staff in Connolly were announcing that the tiles were slippy every five minutes over the PA in the strongest possible terms. All 15:20 Enterprise passengers went along the internal road and entered the platform half-way down. Where you entered the platform there was an IR guy telling every single passenger that the floor was dangerously slippy, and there were three guys mopping the stuff up with wads of paper. Give them their dues, they tried this time. Was wondering would the sand they use to stop the platforms getting icy have worked better? I know it would cause a mess, but it's better than a claim.

It might not be as easy as you think to get money out of IR after 15:00 today, given the warnings, the preventative action, and especially if no one else fell, or the person was acting carelessly themselves. If anyone's interested, look up the English case of Latimer v AEC, which is pretty similar. Haven't got the cite with me right now, but that's how I would decide it anyway! After today though, I'd say they need to have a serious look at an alternative floor.

Colm Moore · 19-01-2008, 22:13

I suspect the tiles were so chosen for ease of cleaning - non-slip surfaces are harder to clean.

What may not have been appreciated is that several thousand people can easily drag in large amounts of water in a short space of time.

constellation · 20-01-2008, 19:28

Same problem occurs on the ramp to platforms 6 & 7. I used to walk along the bumpy part (the "yellow line" for blind people, I presume) on platform 4 quite a lot when it was raining.

Personally, I think they should advertise this feature. Introducing Dublin's Newest Ice-Rink...

Mark Gleeson · 20-01-2008, 20:04

The one on P4 is lethal

shweeney · 21-01-2008, 12:24

whoever is responsible for platform and bridge design in IE has clearly arrived in Ireland from a much warmer drier climate (the Kalahari Desert maybe).

Apart from the lethally slippy tiles, most of the tarmacced platforms suffer terribly from standing water, as do the new bridges in Bray & Greystones (in Greystones they had to come back after the bridge had been up for several months and actually drill holes in the deck and the steps to allow drainage - it hasn't worked)

18-01-2008, 20:19	#1
tigger1962 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kilcurry Posts: 501	non slip surfaces at platforms I did a search on this and was surprised it wasn't mentioned before (or maybe it has and has been outdated). The tiling used in some of the IE Stations are downright dangerous when they get wet!! I particularly noticed it this morning in connolly that many people where coming close to slipping on these tiles. ( I did see one person fall) For IE's part a small sign and a few mats were put out but I don't see why a non slip surface is not laid in these areas... This also happens in pearse and a few other stations. Warning notices are put to to say the tiles are slippery but surely IE have a duty of care to make sure that these surfaces are not a safety hazard which they clearly are. I did note that at the (late) arrival of the 2.10 enterprise today they made passengers use an alternate exit from platform two I'm presuming it was because of the slippery floor as this tiled surface was extremely treacherous this morning!! Are there any regulations for this or has anyone even sued IE for falling on this type of surface

18-01-2008, 23:00	#3
zag Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 199	Connolly I got a DART from today for the first time in ages and I noticed the same thing. I had to walk gingerly along whatever the platform is in the main building to make my way along to the DART. It was not a good surface at all. I saw some sort of ready-up mop thing propped up against a wall - it looked like sheets of paper which were pushed around to dry the surface. z

18-01-2008, 23:31	#4
chris Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 131	By 15:00 staff in Connolly were announcing that the tiles were slippy every five minutes over the PA in the strongest possible terms. All 15:20 Enterprise passengers went along the internal road and entered the platform half-way down. Where you entered the platform there was an IR guy telling every single passenger that the floor was dangerously slippy, and there were three guys mopping the stuff up with wads of paper. Give them their dues, they tried this time. Was wondering would the sand they use to stop the platforms getting icy have worked better? I know it would cause a mess, but it's better than a claim. It might not be as easy as you think to get money out of IR after 15:00 today, given the warnings, the preventative action, and especially if no one else fell, or the person was acting carelessly themselves. If anyone's interested, look up the English case of Latimer v AEC, which is pretty similar. Haven't got the cite with me right now, but that's how I would decide it anyway! After today though, I'd say they need to have a serious look at an alternative floor. Last edited by chris : 18-01-2008 at 23:35.

20-01-2008, 20:04	#7
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	The one on P4 is lethal __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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18-01-2008, 22:26	#2
Rashers Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 431	I agree. Water seems to sit on the platform tiles. I'm sure they've had a few passenger accident/slippage claims, so I'm surprised they have not bothered to correct it. Whoever ordered those tiles should have been spoken too...many are cracked, and completely unsuitable for the 'semi' air.

19-01-2008, 22:13	#5
Colm Moore Local Liaison Officer Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,442	I suspect the tiles were so chosen for ease of cleaning - non-slip surfaces are harder to clean. What may not have been appreciated is that several thousand people can easily drag in large amounts of water in a short space of time.

20-01-2008, 19:28	#6
constellation Regular Poster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 73	Same problem occurs on the ramp to platforms 6 & 7. I used to walk along the bumpy part (the "yellow line" for blind people, I presume) on platform 4 quite a lot when it was raining. Personally, I think they should advertise this feature. Introducing Dublin's Newest Ice-Rink...

21-01-2008, 12:24	#8
shweeney Regular Poster Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 180	whoever is responsible for platform and bridge design in IE has clearly arrived in Ireland from a much warmer drier climate (the Kalahari Desert maybe). Apart from the lethally slippy tiles, most of the tarmacced platforms suffer terribly from standing water, as do the new bridges in Bray & Greystones (in Greystones they had to come back after the bridge had been up for several months and actually drill holes in the deck and the steps to allow drainage - it hasn't worked)