The Leap Card Thread

[Traincustomer]

Originally Posted by Eddie

Ensure you keep a regular check on your Leap Card history, as system errors resulting in overcharging are not being refunded on claims after more than 30 days.

In my view the Leap Card section of the NTA could and should have refunded this money to you as a once off goodwill gesture while drawing attention to the 30 day policy.

[comcor]

Any word on when Pay As You Go Leap will be available on Cork Commuter services

I see a covered-up validator at Cobh station now.

[Mark Gleeson]

Validators are in, back end software and a fares determination are now required, can't test without the fares

[bg07]

Cork suburban rail leap epurse fares were included in the last fare determination so fare determination is not an issue.

https://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-...tober_2014.pdf

[Eddie]

Originally Posted by Traincustomer

In my view the Leap Card section of the NTA could and should have refunded this money to you as a once off goodwill gesture while drawing attention to the 30 day policy.

It looks like they are going to do exactly that.

[Eddie]

Inconsistent applications of the Leap 90 discount could do with ironing out. Discount is available if travelling between any of Dublin Bus / Luas / Dart to any different mode, and also from Dublin Bus to Dublin Bus.

It's not available when taking a second Luas or second Dart journey within 90 minutes.

I'll bet most regular travellers who have heard of the Leap 90 discount wouldn't know that such exclusions would apply from the posters and try explaining the logic of it to tourists.

[berneyarms]

Originally Posted by Eddie

Inconsistent applications of the Leap 90 discount could do with ironing out. Discount is available if travelling between any of Dublin Bus / Luas / Dart to any different mode, and also from Dublin Bus to Dublin Bus.

It's not available when taking a second Luas or second Dart journey within 90 minutes.

I'll bet most regular travellers who have heard of the Leap 90 discount wouldn't know that such exclusions would apply from the posters and try explaining the logic of it to tourists.

The exclusions on Irish Rail to Irish Rail and LUAS to LUAS journeys apply because there are already fares set for every station pairing.

For example if you take a DART from Howth to Connolly and then a suburban train to Ashtown. There is already a discounted fare set for Howth to Ashtown.

LUAS has zonal fares which cover a trip from Brides Glen to Saggart and Irish Rail a fares matrix which covers every station pairing.

[Mark Gleeson]

The problem is I can do Dun Laoghaire Blackrock, get out, then Blackrock Pearse, it will be charged as two journeys with no discount. If I did same with bus I would get a discount

More realistic example is Clondalkin - Heuston - Connolly - Howth

Leap treats Clondalkin Heuston and Connolly Howth as two distinct trips with no discount, but the Luas will show a discount. Brave man to try not tagging out in Heuston and not tagging on in Connolly to see what happens.

In theory as you go Irish Rail - Luas and then Luas - Irish Rail it should give you a discount on Connolly Howth but I wouldn't bet on it

Cash
4.70 + 1.80 = 6.50

Leap
2.41 + 1.44 + 2.41
Less 2 euro
4.26

But if I walk Heuston - Connolly I would not get the 90 discount
4.82

Leap without tagging off/on HN/CY (as there is a legal fare code within Irish Rail, impossible but need to compare with old through ticketing option)
3.49 +1.44
Less 1 euro
3.93

Fare via Phoenix Park Tunnel
3.49


Anywhere else in the world this would be considered a single journey of X zones regardless of changes made

[bg07]

Has leap epurse been turned on in Cork yet for a soft launch yet?

They're really taking their time launching it.

[Mark Gleeson]

Not available for public yet

Apparently there are unresolved issues