Press Release 2nd October 2006

ccos · 13-12-2006, 17:08

You still have a pump in Templemore??????

Mark Gleeson · 13-12-2006, 17:12

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Originally Posted by ccos

You still have a pump in Templemore??????

They do I think

This is not parish pump politics for two reasons
1) There is a measureable demand as in the punters which use the service, this ain't Woodlawn
2) Not a political thing

Put it this way do more people board in Charleville or Templemore, no contest more in Templemore, Charleville was always on timetable

Nigel Fitzgricer · 13-12-2006, 18:00

This is the first time I have noticed this press release. There is absolutely no reason to prioritise Templemore as a station on the network. It's a mickey mouse halt and it already has a negative impact on services on the Cork line. If anything it should be downgraded to a local stopping service.

Sorry folks, but Templemore should way down the priority food chain for P11 - considering what Navan Man posted today about Clonsilla and Dunbonye and the carry-on there, Templemore should not even be on the radar screen.

There are some real battles out there, this ain't one of them. It's not even a minor skirmish.

Thomas J Stamp · 13-12-2006, 18:22

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Originally Posted by Nigel Fitzgricer

This is the first time I have noticed this press release. There is absolutely no reason to prioritise Templemore as a station on the network. It's a mickey mouse halt and it already has a negative impact on services on the Cork line. If anything it should be downgraded to a local stopping service.

Sorry folks, but Templemore should way down the priority food chain for P11 - considering what Navan Man posted today about Clonsilla and Dunbonye and the carry-on there, Templemore should not even be on the radar screen.

There are some real battles out there, this ain't one of them. It's not even a minor skirmish.

Plenty of reasons Nige, read the entire sub board and also what I said on IRN about it, as I havent got the time to rehash it all here and now.

This isnt a P11 issue, by the way, P11 just host this little part of the board. I'm sure if west on Track want a discussion board hosted here for them we'd happily oblige as well.

I would love to see Templemore left as it is, but it wont be, the town will be twice its size and most of the people will be working in Dublin. The hub and spoke arraingement will only buy IE some time, thats all. I can see the day when they'll be needing three trains out of Templemore before seven am, and possibley another two before eight going to Dublin, and then there may be some pressure from the Limerick direction as well. Not what I want, to be sure, but we have to plan ahead for it.

It is, if you like, the anti WRC.

dowlingm · 08-01-2007, 18:57

If a direct curve was built such that Ballybrophy was cut out in favour of Portlaoise for Nenagh line service and the northern part of the catchment was dealt with by Borris-in-Ossory then Templemore would benefit from the southern part of the catchment and improve the business case for more stopping. They're only 10 minutes apart on the timetable and the fewer stops on the only 100mph section in the country the better.

comcor · 10-01-2007, 13:38

Would there be demand for a regional service from Dublin to Thurles?

Something along the lines of a Hesuton-Newbridge-Kildare-Monastervan-Poratrlington-Port Laoise-(Mountrath)-Ballybrophy-Templemore-Thurles.

Maybe 4 or 5 times a day after the new railcars have arrived.

If it was viable, it could reduce the need for Dublin-Cork and Dublin-Limerick services to stop at a lot of the intermediate stations, while providing a more reliable service for people on the route.

dowlingm · 11-01-2007, 15:00

Here's a thought - run one train with 3 x 3 car 2200 sets. Split off one at Portarlington for Athlone, one at Ballybrophy (or Portlaoise) for Limerick via Nenagh and run the remainder to Clonmel via Templemore/Thurles/Limerick Junction. Reassemble on the way back and thus you only need one slot into/out of Heuston, or two if reassembly was impractical due delay. Yes it would require coordination to ensure people got on the right one but let's have some signs on the doors and station managers earning their keep. You could run a similar service using one set to terminate in Carlow or Kilkenny.

Derek Wheeler · 11-01-2007, 20:42

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Originally Posted by comcor

Would there be demand for a regional service from Dublin to Thurles?

Something along the lines of a Hesuton-Newbridge-Kildare-Monastervan-Poratrlington-Port Laoise-(Mountrath)-Ballybrophy-Templemore-Thurles.

Maybe 4 or 5 times a day after the new railcars have arrived.

If it was viable, it could reduce the need for Dublin-Cork and Dublin-Limerick services to stop at a lot of the intermediate stations, while providing a more reliable service for people on the route.

Thats how its done in the modern world. A great idea requiring only a small amount of new stock and opening up the route to many.

13-12-2006, 18:00	#3
Nigel Fitzgricer Regular Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 140	This is the first time I have noticed this press release. There is absolutely no reason to prioritise Templemore as a station on the network. It's a mickey mouse halt and it already has a negative impact on services on the Cork line. If anything it should be downgraded to a local stopping service. Sorry folks, but Templemore should way down the priority food chain for P11 - considering what Navan Man posted today about Clonsilla and Dunbonye and the carry-on there, Templemore should not even be on the radar screen. There are some real battles out there, this ain't one of them. It's not even a minor skirmish. __________________ ************* Last edited by Nigel Fitzgricer : 13-12-2006 at 18:03.

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13-12-2006, 17:08	#1
ccos Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kazbegi Posts: 281	You still have a pump in Templemore??????

08-01-2007, 18:57	#5
dowlingm Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,371	If a direct curve was built such that Ballybrophy was cut out in favour of Portlaoise for Nenagh line service and the northern part of the catchment was dealt with by Borris-in-Ossory then Templemore would benefit from the southern part of the catchment and improve the business case for more stopping. They're only 10 minutes apart on the timetable and the fewer stops on the only 100mph section in the country the better.

10-01-2007, 13:38	#6
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	Would there be demand for a regional service from Dublin to Thurles? Something along the lines of a Hesuton-Newbridge-Kildare-Monastervan-Poratrlington-Port Laoise-(Mountrath)-Ballybrophy-Templemore-Thurles. Maybe 4 or 5 times a day after the new railcars have arrived. If it was viable, it could reduce the need for Dublin-Cork and Dublin-Limerick services to stop at a lot of the intermediate stations, while providing a more reliable service for people on the route.

11-01-2007, 15:00	#7
dowlingm Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,371	Here's a thought - run one train with 3 x 3 car 2200 sets. Split off one at Portarlington for Athlone, one at Ballybrophy (or Portlaoise) for Limerick via Nenagh and run the remainder to Clonmel via Templemore/Thurles/Limerick Junction. Reassemble on the way back and thus you only need one slot into/out of Heuston, or two if reassembly was impractical due delay. Yes it would require coordination to ensure people got on the right one but let's have some signs on the doors and station managers earning their keep. You could run a similar service using one set to terminate in Carlow or Kilkenny.