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Unread 25-05-2015, 08:28   #21
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It arrived Heuston on time, pity is that is caused just about every other train to be delayed.

Delays of 10 minutes on most services following
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Unread 25-05-2015, 09:32   #22
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It arrived Heuston on time, pity is that is caused just about every other train to be delayed.

Delays of 10 minutes on most services following
Reminds of the days with the early Cork train, 0505, would, running late as usual, would disrupt several other trains....
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Unread 25-05-2015, 10:35   #23
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So it caused other services to suffer and I believe the 05.55-08.20 service is more popular with Cork passengers than the new express. So much for listening to customers and asking them their views!

Having it depart at 06.00 and arrive at 08.15 and the stopping depart at 06.10 and arrive at 08.35 would be the way to go.

So big question is how many weeks or months will us others have to put up with accommodating it?

IE should know it is very difficult to add services without implementing a new timetable especially at peak times...
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Unread 25-05-2015, 13:25   #24
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So it caused other services to suffer and I believe the 05.55-08.20 service is more popular with Cork passengers than the new express. So much for listening to customers and asking them their views!

Having it depart at 06.00 and arrive at 08.15 and the stopping depart at 06.10 and arrive at 08.35 would be the way to go.

So big question is how many weeks or months will us others have to put up with accommodating it?

IE should know it is very difficult to add services without implementing a new timetable especially at peak times...
I'm not sure how anyone can jump to all of the conclusions that you have in that post on the basis of a sample of one single day's performance?

I don't think that you can judge the popularity of a service until after several months, and performance until after at least one week.

You certainly cannot leap to the conclusions that you have after one single day.
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Unread 25-05-2015, 15:16   #25
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I'm not sure how anyone can jump to all of the conclusions that you have in that post on the basis of a sample of one single day's performance?

I don't think that you can judge the popularity of a service until after several months, and performance until after at least one week.

You certainly cannot leap to the conclusions that you have after one single day.
Schedules don't allow very much leeway and for a service to be late entering a critical part of the network and arriving on time in Heuston is not acceptable. I am aware it's not the only service however causing such delays as 10 minutes is not acceptable. Note that the service commenced when there is only one TSR in place on the line which seems to be preeminent it won't be long until another is in place and it will just make the problem worse. This is just poor timetabling from IE's part and most can see it was never going to work expect those who came up with it.

As for numbers using it, 10 minutes difference in times is a lot to many and I bet that whenever a timetable changes you will see it have an 08.15 arrival.
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Unread 26-05-2015, 08:39   #26
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Another mess this morning

0555 was held at Limerick Junction to allow the 0615 to overtake, delays of 10 minutes across numerous services as a result
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Another mess this morning

0555 was held at Limerick Junction to allow the 0615 to overtake, delays of 10 minutes across numerous services as a result
Which would suggest that the 05:55 had a problem presumably?
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Unread 26-05-2015, 08:56   #28
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Given both trains run non stop from Limerick Junction it doesn't make any sense to change the order

0555 was 22 late after making an extra stop at Thurles for reasons unknown
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Given both trains run non stop from Limerick Junction it doesn't make any sense to change the order

0555 was 22 late after making an extra stop at Thurles for reasons unknown
If the 05:55 was late already at Limerick Junction and made an extra stop at Thurles, it would sound like it had some form of problem, technical or otherwise.
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Unread 26-05-2015, 09:47   #30
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@kieranbrennan sorry for delays. Mechanical fault , then Thurles stop for operational issue & person on board pulled emergency cord.
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Unread 26-05-2015, 10:13   #31
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05:55 was 7 late arriving Limerick Junction

The 06:15 overtook (it was running 4 late anyway), but as the signalling isn't great around that part of the world the 05:55 was 17 minutes down by the time it got back to full speed.

It spent 10 minutes in Thurles, but made up time from there to Dublin, so not a mechanical issue

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Unread 27-05-2015, 20:50   #32
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Today seems to be the best day so far with it's arrival time of 08.29 (-5 for padding) so around 08.24 however the Westport service seems have real problems. Before the change it usually ran quiet delayed so this just adds to the problem. One might wonder why IE didn't address this when making adjustments. Is it held outside Portarlington for the 06.15 to pass or does it get to Kildare before it passes?

It should also be noted that while some services such as the 06.30 ex Galway are arriving on time they are still around 5 minutes lather than a week ago.
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Shades of the mayhem the Alan Kelly Express caused. No lessons learned?
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Anybody an update on the service over the last number of days, have saw tweets of the 08.11 being delayed up to 15 minutes because of it!
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The "business express" offers a complementary 10 minute delay daily (15 until the padding kicks in).

Pushing the departure to 06.25 would be an outrageous and unrealistic suggestion to Irish Rail!

Unlikely any changes until the new timetable in December/January.

IE internal communication as bad as external as clearly whoever wanted the 08.30 arrival didn't really consult with operations to see how feasible it would be....or they were told what they wanted to hear.

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