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Unread 19-10-2006, 10:50   #1
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Arrow Metro North Route

As promised and you saw it here first

# St Stephen's Green
Station will be partly under the park, at Stephens Green west, but entrances will be adjacent to the current Luas stop. No decision has been made in relation to where the TBM will come out. They are also examining other tunneling techniques. Line runs under Grafton street, College Green and Westmoreland street.

# O'Connell Bridge
Station to be located under the Liffey. Entrances will be provided both north and south. Possibly on the quays. 4 at least. One at the junction of Abbey street providing integration with the Luas red line. Line runs up O'Connell Street, Parnell Sq East, across Dorset Street and Eccles St.

# Mater
Station located under existing hospital car park.(soon to become the new childrens hospital. Entrances on Eccles street and North Circular Road. The NCR entrance opens up Metro to the proposed Mountjoy development and Phisboro area. Line curves back towards the end of Dorset St and onto Drumcondra Road.

# Drumcondra
Station will be under the road, but "mined". RPA want to make the entrances as close as possible to IE station. They are looking at putting at least one within the station environs. Thought has been given to how to deal with Croke Park crowds
Line travels onwards in a north westerly direction and crosses Griffith Avenue.

# Griffith Avenue
Station to be located underground but "shallow" on lands owned by DCU and planned as the second campus. Public entrances provided and station built in such a way that DCU can build campus over it. Continuing north west line runs into a shallow cutting.

# DCU
Station in shallow cutting, so may be unmanned. Line continues in shallow cutting, under Collins Avenue and then at grade along the central median of current road through Ballymun.

# Ballymun
RPA are currently working with Ballymun redevelopment on station location and exact route through the centre of Ballymun. Line will run along the east side of existing link road to M50.

# Santry Demesne
Station to serve development here. However development is also taking place on the opposite side of the link road and the RPA envisage a new pedestrian bridge to link metro station with it.
Line crosses over M50, curves to the right.

# Metro Park (Name may be changed)
Park and Ride site. No depot planned here. It may not be the junction point with Metro West either, due to other developer lobbies, who want a different alignment for Metro West. Public consultation for Metro West is due to begin in October. Line goes underground again before airport perimeter.

# Airport
Underground and station positioned equal distance from T1 and T2 a box has been reserved for construction. Line then surfaces due to the natural land contours at the north of the airport

# Airside/Nevinstown (Name may be changed)
Line then crosses under the old M1 by cut and cover

# Swords
Located at Pinnochill roundabout Route continues along side Swords Bypass on the east side of the old N1

# Seatown

# Lissenhall
Lissenhall terminus is now closer to Swords to allow more flexibility for later extensions and road access
Extremely large park and ride site with up to 2000 spaces

More http://www.platform11.org/transport2...orth_route.php
Platform 11 acknowledges the assistance and information provided by the RPA to provide this list

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A nice validation of your sensible and excellent Metro report Mark.
Well done to yourself and Derek and the others who worked hard behind the scenes to hammer home the message of integration at Drumcondra and a service to Swords.
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http://www.platform11.org/news/news....006&no=24.html

http://www.platform11.org/transport2...sense_wins.php
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Does equal distance from T1 & T2 mean Great Southern Hotel?

Even so it is a pretty good route.
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Unread 19-10-2006, 11:19   #5
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The route passes under the airport goes nowhere near the hotel
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Confusion reigns:

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breakingnews.ieDublin metro system to run via Ballymun and Phibsboro
19/10/2006 - 12:09:59



Minister for Transport Martin Cullen has announced the route chosen for the proposed metro line linking Dublin Airport with the city centre.

Three alternatives had been put forward as part of a public consultation process.

The chosen one will see the metro system run from Swords through Dublin Airport, via Ballymun and Phibsboro and on to St Stephen's Green.

Mr Cullen says the route will service 20,000 people every hour, with trains running every 90 seconds.

The total journey time will be 17 minutes.

The metro is expected to take around 40,000 cars off the streets of the city centre every day when it is operational in 2012.
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Cullen announces Metro details

19 October 2006 11:46
Transport Minister Martin Cullen has announced details of the new Dublin Metro North service, which will see 15 new stops developed across north Co Dublin.

The project, which forms part of the Government's Transport 21 programme, is expected to be used by more than 34 million people every year.

Trains will operate every four minutes on the route and a journey time from Dublin city centre to the airport will be around 17 minutes.


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www.transport.ie/upload/general/8316-0.pdf

This is a map of the route from the DOT themselves.
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# Airport
Underground and station positioned equal distance from T1 and T2 a box has been reserved for construction. Line then surfaces due to the natural land contours at the north of the airport
I'm almost afraid to ask, but this does take into account the proposed second runway at Dublin Airport?
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Thanks Mark.
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# Drumcondra
Station will be under the road, but "mined". RPA want to make the entrances as close as possible to IE station. They are looking at putting at least one within the station environs.
Thanks Mark for the Info and all the Great work.....

I guess i am a sceptic.... I worry when i hear government (appointed) organisations saying things like "as close as possible". I think they mean "as close a possible without spending too much money".
I can't wait to see detailed station plans.....

However, Really good news in the main......
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There is serious talk going on to make it work the plan is to allow you to walk from train to metro without hitting a barrier or going out onto the street.

Exact station location comes next
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does the midland line factor in in the drumcondra solution
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Issue was discussed with RPA

IE have no plans to use Midland line post 2015 thus its a non starter, however its not beyond the realms of possibilty to link the metro station into a station on the Midland line, the clearances are very very tight on the Midland line for a platform
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Is the midland line a temp measure I thought it was to become a permenant feature
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`Naw, they've gotta dump the station and build an underground one for the Interconnector.,
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Well Done Derek!

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Quote:
ullen announces details of Metro route

19 October 2006 17:07
Transport Minister Martin Cullen has announced details of the new Dublin Metro North service, which will see 15 new stops developed across north Co Dublin.

The project, which forms part of the Government's Transport 21 programme, is expected to be used by more than 34 million people every year.

Trains will operate every four minutes on the route and the journey time from Dublin city centre to the airport will be around 17 minutes.

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Minister Cullen has stated that the route is more than just a link to the airport and will be used by millions of commuters.

A topic of debate for many years, the Metro has been a piece of infrastructure which has been announced and then re-announced while congestion in the capital has got steadily worse.

The rail users' lobby group, Platform 11, has urged the public to support the Metro North service.

Platform 11 spokesperson Derek Wheeler has welcomed the route, saying it was much better than others that were previously proposed.

He said it was important that two key areas - integration with the Maynooth line and the extension of the route to Swords - had been addressed.

The organisation says there is an onus on commuters to be positive about the prospects of the line being in service by 2012, despite failures to meet other public transport deadlines in the past.

Mr Wheeler now wants commitments on the proposed Metro West line.

Opposition gives guarded welcome

Opposition parties have given a guarded welcome to the announcement.

The Fine Gael Transport Spokesperson, Olivia Mitchell, said progress towards a high-speed, high-capacity rail spine for Dublin was welcome. But, she said, the absence of even a ballpark costing left a massive credibility gap.

Róisín Shortall, Labour's Transport Spokesperson, expressed concern that the route should go over-ground from DCU, adding that it would cause severe traffic disruption and major inconvenience for communities in the area.

She also warned that the lessons of previous construction projects would have to be learned if the 2012 completion date was to be met.

Meanwhile, Progressive Democrat Transport Spokesperson Senator Tom Morrissey has called for 24-hour tunnelling during construction of the Metro line.

Senator Morrissey said it would reduce costs and ensure the work is completed on time and within budget. He also said that the issue of compensation for householders must be clarified.
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This is excellent news, well done to everyone involved. I see we've gone from "no mined stations" to at least two.

I found this on our intranet at work:

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Chambers welcome new metro route

The Chambers Ireland Transport Users Council today welcomed
Minister Cullen's choice of route for Metro north, in particular
the interconnector with the Maynooth line but has urged the
Government to proceed with its construction with minimum delay

Chair of the council Dan Loughrey said, "Chambers Ireland's
Transport Users Survey showed that workers in Dublin lose 9 hours
a month due to traffic congestion last year.

"In this context," he said, "it seems foolhardy to wait until 2009
to commence work on this line. The Spanish Government built a
metro in three years, we should be able to do the same and not
wait until 2012 for it to be completed.

"This again raises the urgent need for the full establishment of
the Dublin Transport Authority. Having committed to establishing
the body within two months of announcing Transport 21, the
Minister now says it will be established in March 2007 - sixteen
months late. Even at that, consultations with the affected
agencies have not yet taken place so the Minister is writing
legislative solutions without assessing the problems," Mr.
Loughrey said.



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a service of Media World Ltd.
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I am in the US at the moment working and I checked the UTV news site on the off chance and lo and behold Dublin is to get a brilliant metro north with an ace, integrated route route.

However, I think UTV has posted a world exclusive preview of the rolling stock to be used. Do you think it'll be carrying beet as well as commuters?

http://u.tv/newsroom/indepth.asp?id=77410&pt=n
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I'm almost afraid to ask, but this does take into account the proposed second runway at Dublin Airport?
Yep.

Metro surfaces outside the Airport perimetre north of the road that runs parallel to Forest Little golf club.
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Yep.

Metro surfaces outside the Airport perimetre north of the road that runs parallel to Forest Little golf club.
and runs just east of the actual runway so as far as I know it does not run directly under the planned parallel runway.

http://www.fingalcoco.ie/devplan/you...ge%20SF2/a.htm
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