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Unread 11-08-2019, 17:07   #1
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Does anyone know if the rest of the 29K carriages will be repainted in the dark green colours like some of them already have? Personally, I think itís pure laziness from Irish Rail when they link the old livery with the new livery to make an eight carriage commuter train. Itís not easy on the eye and it looks unprofessional in my opinion. Sort it out Irish Rail.
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Unread 12-08-2019, 22:42   #2
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I presume that the rostering of sets involves splitting 8 car into 2x4-car formations at some point in the day, and re-combining 4-car into 8-car formations at a later stage, possibly in a different location. Also individual 4-car units may have different maintenance schedules or may develop faults, which involve swapping some units.

So I'm fairly sure it's more complicated than you seem to think. The last thing on the minds of IE personnel must be the matching of liveries. There are time when IE needs a break!
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Unread 15-08-2019, 07:08   #3
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Paint scheme doesn't make the trains run on time.

The fleet is slowly being repainted as required, capacity requirements mean it is not possible to take units out of service en mass for repainting. If Irish Rail did this we would immediately call foul.
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I think there is only one (could be two) 8 pace with split livery. The rest are singles or matching. I'd say its rare a 29 is split these days unless there is a failure/operational change.

They have no need to split based on schedule from what I can tell.
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Unread 20-08-2019, 14:06   #5
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I agree that it is a bit trivial to be concerned about split livery. However, some of the 29Ks with the old livery are in quite a decrepit state by now.

That being said, it must be at least 5 years since the new livery came in which leads to the question - why start on a new livery programme in the first place if it's ended up taking so long to get even half way through it? In the end, it actually does look unprofessional to be mixing and matching this way which is typical of the little details that Irish Rail get wrong. They seem to have a history of making a complete mess of branding - they are on their third corporate identity in a little over 20 years and there are bits of all three on display in every station in country.

But as Mark said, nobody cares about the branding - they'd just like the trains to run on time. For bonus points, maybe get the average speed between Mullingar and Dublin over 60kph. Then start worrying about branding. Or better still, leave it alone so that we can end up with everything consistent by default about 20 years from now.

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