Change to Credit/Debit Usage at Luas Ticket Machines

[chris]

Putting a pin pad outside is a bit dodgy for a number of reasons.

1. Pinpads aren't supposed to get wet
2. Cards aren't supposed to get that wet
3. Electrical devices like pinpads aren't supposed to operate at low temperatures
4. If it sticks out (as it presumably will), people will whack into it and break it off, especially at the busy stops on the red line, which serve a dual function as pavements.

I presume reasons like this are why they weren't there in the first place, but I agree Veolia have to find a way around it. If they can have ATMs outside, there should be some way to downsize. Anyone know how other cities do this?

[Mark Gleeson]

What you do is update the magstripe reader to read the chip, been done on many atms

Then use the touch screen as the input for the pin, IE have a nice on screen keypad for entry of id numbers and reservation numbers

[chris]

Thanks for that Mark.

They'd need to keep the onscreen keypad small to protect security

[Thomas Ralph]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

What you do is update the magstripe reader to read the chip, been done on many atms

That's doable.

Then use the touch screen as the input for the pin, IE have a nice on screen keypad for entry of id numbers and reservation numbers

That violates IPSO rules.

Originally Posted by markpb

I don't think the DPA says anything about credit cards

Did you click on the link at all?

[Colm Moore]

Originally Posted by chris

Putting a pin pad outside is a bit dodgy for a number of reasons.
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4. If it sticks out (as it presumably will), people will whack into it and break it off, especially at the busy stops on the red line, which serve a dual function as pavements.
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If they can have ATMs outside, there should be some way to downsize. Anyone know how other cities do this?

I imagine a keypad similar to those on ATMs can be retro-fitted so that it is more or less flush with the face give or take 2mm.

[chris]

Originally Posted by Victor

I imagine a keypad similar to those on ATMs can be retro-fitted so that it is more or less flush with the face give or take 2mm.

Given the ridiculous amount of space those things take up, I imagine you're probably right. There must be a lot of empty space inside them

[Thomas Ralph]

Originally Posted by Victor

I imagine a keypad similar to those on ATMs can be retro-fitted so that it is more or less flush with the face give or take 2mm.

Yes, should not be much of a problem. TFL did it for chip/PIN rollout without hassle.

[Colm Donoghue]

Originally Posted by tralph

Yes, should not be much of a problem. TFL did it for chip/PIN rollout without hassle.

Every retailer in the country managed... maybe the rpa were too busy explaining why 30m trams on the red line were good enough, or maybe they signed an amazingly bad contract with veolia that it makes sense to not accept payment instead of upgrading the machines....

[CSL]

what, are we looking for simple solutions ?

1. Register your card
2. Buy the top-up online
3. Next tag-on, card value increases by whatever it was [ €100 or whatever ]

Job's a horse.

[Thomas Ralph]

Originally Posted by CSL

what, are we looking for simple solutions ?

1. Register your card
2. Buy the top-up online
3. Next tag-on, card value increases by whatever it was [ €100 or whatever ]

Job's a horse.

That would work but would be even easier to generate card fraud with. The current method requires the physical card, that method would allow purchases with just the card number.

[Laois Commuter]

Also doesn't cover season tickets.

LC

[Terrontress]

Originally Posted by tralph

That would work but would be even easier to generate card fraud with. The current method requires the physical card, that method would allow purchases with just the card number.

It seems to work fine on eazypass.