Maps anyone?

Garrett · 13-02-2007, 02:43

Thanks Victor, very useful.

I still think that there ia a lack of good maps out there. The old (but soon to be reopened??) Mullingar-Athlone line is not shown on the map you posted for example.

Also, many people forget that Bord na Mona (BNM) have an extremely large network of freight rail throughout the boglands. These railways are, unfortunately, unfit for any passenger lines and usually don't go anywhere useful. However, it's useful to know that IE + RPA aren't the only rail experts in Ireland.

Finally, it's amazing how many tourist railways exist in the UK. I've seen the one around Snowdon in Wales myself. That one is also used by locals to get around sometimes. The only one I know of in Ireland is near Clonmacnoise in Offaly, which is actually a BNM line.

Garrett · 13-02-2007, 03:50

By the way, one useful site is gmap-pedometer.com. People who like jogging find it very useful. It uses Google Maps, which unfortunately doesn't use the Navteq data, but has good maps of Dublin City. As an example, here is the Heuston-Connolly path of the Luas.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=704196

To prove that I am indeed a map freak, I'm attaching an example (PDF) of what could be done (using Yahoo Maps) to show a detailed map of the Irish rail network (or any network for that matter). I didn't finish it cos I actually do get around to having a life every now and then

Make sure you view it at 100% scale.

I never realised how crooked the Sligo line approaching Dublin was until I did this!

eugene · 13-02-2007, 10:17

Here's one of the best I've found from 1906, the Viceregal commission on Irish Railways

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:M...ion_1906.j pg

Check the section from Tuam to Collooney, the famous WRC. Even then it was listed as a "light rail" line

Sent this onto the WOT crew

Just goes to show how extensive things once were

comcor · 13-02-2007, 13:49

It's an interesting map. Blow up sections of the areas around Belfast, Cork and Dublin would me nice to see too

I'm sure I'll just depress myself by asking this question, but is there any track-bed left from the Dublin & Blessington or Dublin & Lucan lines?

Let's just hope the WRC people don't see the lines out to Achill, Killala and Ballinrobe...

Colm Moore · 13-02-2007, 15:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by comcor

I'm sure I'll just depress myself by asking this question, but is there any track-bed left from the Dublin & Blessington or Dublin & Lucan lines?

Both were on road tramways.

Oisin88 · 15-02-2007, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garrett

Finally, it's amazing how many tourist railways exist in the UK. I've seen the one around Snowdon in Wales myself. That one is also used by locals to get around sometimes. The only one I know of in Ireland is near Clonmacnoise in Offaly, which is actually a BNM line.

There is a bit of the old Glenties railway line still in existance at Finntown Co Donegal where you can hop on an old train for a bit.
There is also about half a mile of an old diesel railcar in Derry.

Now I'll shut up for fear of being thrown out of P11 for CSPN (crimes supporting the promotion of nostalgia)

Thomas J Stamp · 15-02-2007, 23:33

oh god, make it stop!!!

the only reason I havent locked this thread or even moved it is because, yes you can get maps for all the lines fairly easily.

Go to Easons O'connell street, go downstairs to the transport section, beside the piller there is a rail sub section, there are two books which contain a detailed map of all the lines (used and unused) in ireland.

Basicly, all the lines were at a peak around 1902, from them smaller branch and exotic lines were closed, mass closures in the 50's and sixties, to what we have today pretty much.

anyway, as said before, we're not a historical society, so if Garrett can pop off to Easons and say he's happy I'll close the thread.

Garrett · 16-02-2007, 01:54

Okay, Okay, I'll stop!

Anyhows, I finally found what I was looking for on Wikipedia.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas J Stamp

we're not a historical society

I know, but when it comes to discussing rail transport in Ireland, past, present and future, this is the only website and forum that has it all.

Thanks all for the comments. You can close the thread TJS.

Thomas J Stamp · 16-02-2007, 10:06

Sorry Garrett, didn't notice your location!!!! Glad you got sorted.

13-02-2007, 10:17	#3
eugene Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 132	Viceregal Commission 1906 Here's one of the best I've found from 1906, the Viceregal commission on Irish Railways http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:M...ion_1906.j pg Check the section from Tuam to Collooney, the famous WRC. Even then it was listed as a "light rail" line Sent this onto the WOT crew Just goes to show how extensive things once were

15-02-2007, 23:33	#7
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	oh god, make it stop!!! the only reason I havent locked this thread or even moved it is because, yes you can get maps for all the lines fairly easily. Go to Easons O'connell street, go downstairs to the transport section, beside the piller there is a rail sub section, there are two books which contain a detailed map of all the lines (used and unused) in ireland. Basicly, all the lines were at a peak around 1902, from them smaller branch and exotic lines were closed, mass closures in the 50's and sixties, to what we have today pretty much. anyway, as said before, we're not a historical society, so if Garrett can pop off to Easons and say he's happy I'll close the thread. __________________ We are the passengers

16-02-2007, 10:06	#9
Thomas J Stamp Chairman/Publicity Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Home of Hurling Posts: 2,708	Sorry Garrett, didn't notice your location!!!! Glad you got sorted. __________________ We are the passengers

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Garrett Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paris Posts: 78	Thanks Victor, very useful. I still think that there ia a lack of good maps out there. The old (but soon to be reopened??) Mullingar-Athlone line is not shown on the map you posted for example. Also, many people forget that Bord na Mona (BNM) have an extremely large network of freight rail throughout the boglands. These railways are, unfortunately, unfit for any passenger lines and usually don't go anywhere useful. However, it's useful to know that IE + RPA aren't the only rail experts in Ireland. Finally, it's amazing how many tourist railways exist in the UK. I've seen the one around Snowdon in Wales myself. That one is also used by locals to get around sometimes. The only one I know of in Ireland is near Clonmacnoise in Offaly, which is actually a BNM line.

13-02-2007, 13:49	#4
comcor Really Regular Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cork-Dublin, Cork Commuter and occasionally DART and Dublin-Wexford Posts: 855	It's an interesting map. Blow up sections of the areas around Belfast, Cork and Dublin would me nice to see too I'm sure I'll just depress myself by asking this question, but is there any track-bed left from the Dublin & Blessington or Dublin & Lucan lines? Let's just hope the WRC people don't see the lines out to Achill, Killala and Ballinrobe...