25-01-2009, 15:08 | #1 |
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I was told by a ticket officer on the Rosslare service that the Rosslare line will not get a totally direct change on its daily services. He was telling me that the existing 13.05 might stay the way it is with a new 22k train but not the 18.35 and the morning service this afternoon train will be taken from a Sligo service and a 2800 class train will be swapped. I thought IE ordered more railcars for Sligo & Rosslare or is it the fact that not all 22k trains are in service yet.
He also said that the 2009 timetable will not be until June/July. |
27-01-2009, 11:20 | #2 |
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[quote=KSW;41142]I was told by a ticket officer on the Rosslare service that the Rosslare line will not get a totally direct change on its daily services.
QUOTE] Thats not on. All services to Rosslare must be converted to 22ks. That was always the plan. |
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I think everyone on the line will have their own opinions on the line by june or july if this does happen. |
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As I had posted many times, staff are only briefed on changes at short notice. This is just speculation
Not all trains south of Greystones will be 22k operated thats always been the position, 3 more 3 car 22k sets are awaited plus several 6 car sets As it stands today there is no reason why the following services cannot be run 6:00 Gorey Dublin 16:30 Dublin Gorey According to the Irish Rail staff timetable they should be 22k services
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Beyond Gorey we all fully expect 22ks to be used with some 2x3 car formations for the busier time slots. |
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27-01-2009, 16:37 | #6 |
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i reckon that if the formation i suggested would happen there wont be any 6-coach 22k formations on the rosslare line
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Several of the wrong-side platforms are too short for them anyway.
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One train each way should be a 6 coach. E.g afternoon train to Rosslare and the evening return to Dublin. Only Rathdrum is a problem with platforms.
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The platform thing isn't a problem, they stop in Woodlawn which is also short
The doors are software controlled so there is no problem locking out the last door of the train if required, could even be done manually by the ticket checker
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Great, so there is no reason why a 6-coach 22k should not be used on the Rosslare line. Glad we sorted that out
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It was my understanding that the fleet was ordered to have SDO, the computer console certainly displays the status of all doors
There are 183 ICR coaches, the tender says 234 so either Irish Rail are ordering 51 more or they are talking about the commuter fleet as its "up to 234 DMU vehicles of the same class / build type" . So Irish Rail have given the game away, they have a contract option on the ICR fleet most likely The problem with SDO is to know when to disable the doors and which ones, thats where you need a complex technical solution and no GPS isn't a great solution They are talking about 100 platforms, which is somewhere upwards of 50 stations in total, I only count 8 platforms in need of this on the Rosslare line
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Heuston side most platforms are 210m, long enough for a 9 car if required, Thurles needs a short extension on one platform but I can't see where 50 platforms is coming from, unless its the entire Sligo line and Rosslare lines
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51 extra 22000 class carriages were ordered nearly six months ago.
IE opted against SDO in the original order for the 22000 class. A nine coach consist (1 six car coupled to 1 three car) was tested recently. IE are looking at using 9 car consists on some of their busier services. A nine coach 22000 would be longer than most platforms so hence the tender for SDO. |
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Upgrading Rosslare and Sligo line to 9-coach?
For the Rosslare side that would be a waste, 6 coach is sufficent What about the commuter services side of things Mark? Any short platforms or possible upgrades? |
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Just what was said on boards
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No contract award notice for a further order, only published orders are
1. 20 * 3 + 10 * 6 = 120 2. 10 * 3 = 30 3. 1 * 3 + 5 * 6 = 33 Been saying for ages that Irish Rail where 40-60 coaches short so it would make sense. For Rosslare, Limerick area and WRC most likely
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and pace and the upgraded kildare line
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