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Unread 31-03-2008, 14:04   #1
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It appears there are major problems in Cork due to a lack of serviceable trains. Several trains have been cancelled as a result on the Cobh line.

Nothing on the Irish Rail site.

If we get details of further cancellations we will update
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Unread 03-04-2008, 15:26   #2
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Due to a massive shortage of railcars in Cork a large number of trains have been cancelled, of course no one is saying anything in IE about it

Morning
The 7:00 and 8:30 Cork Cobh and the 7:30 and 9:00 Cobh

Evening
The 16:30, 17:30 and 18:30 Cork Cobh and the 17:00, 18:00 and 19:00 Cobh Cork

These cancellations are expected to continue for some time

The Mk3 citygold coach set used as a standby for Cork Dublin is now running Tralee - Mallow to substitute for the missing railcars, this however leaves Cork Dublin services at risk

Buses are on standby in Mallow since a 2 coach railcar is not able to take the load where a 4 coach is normally used

The 19:30, 20:30 Cork Cobh and 20:00 and 21:00 Cobh Cork and the 5:35 Cork Millstreet remain cancelled as a result of the ongoing issues in Irish Rail, again no notice to that effect on the IE site
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Unread 03-04-2008, 18:50   #3
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Are the railcars dead or have they been transferred up the country?
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Unread 03-04-2008, 18:54   #4
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2 up country, gearbox related issues
1 in Cork not mobile
1 in Cork mobile but short an engine
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Unread 04-04-2008, 16:36   #5
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If things couldn't get any worse

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Track Improvement Works - Cork/Cobh - Mon 7th - Fri 11th April 2008 by Corporate Communications

Due to Track Improvement Works on the Cork/Cobh from Mon 7th to Fri 11th April 2008 the following services will be substituted by buses:

Please note a 15/20 minute delay may occur

10.00 Cork/Cobh
11.00 Cork/Cobh
12.00 Cork/Cobh
13.00 Cork/Cobh
14.00 Cork/Cobh
15.00 Cork/Cobh
10.30 Cobh/Cork
11.30 Cobh/Cork
12.30 Cobh/Cork
13.30 Cobh/Cork
14.30 Cobh/Cork
15.30 Cobh/Cork

Iarnrod Eireann apologises for any inconvenience caused.
This is expected to continue for a number of weeks

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Unread 18-04-2008, 17:24   #6
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Things get worse
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Cork/Cobh line closed, bus transfers in operation until further notice by Corporate Communications

Due to subsidence on the Cork-Cobh line services will be suspended until further notice.

Bus transfers are in operation.

Iarnród Éireann apologises for any inconvenience caused
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Unread 18-04-2008, 19:56   #7
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Update Cork/Cobh services will resume from 21 30, bus transfers will be in operation until 21 30 by Corporate Communications

Due to subsidence on the Cork-Cobh line services will be suspended until further notice.

Bus transfers are in operation.

Iarnród Éireann apologises for any inconvenience caused
Should of course point out the 19:30 and 20:30 trains are nearly always buses anway
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Unread 25-04-2008, 13:41   #8
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A 6 coach push pull set is now based in Cork which somewhat resolves the situation.

Its back to front from operational reasons, so the engine faces Dublin instead of Cobh
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Is that a Mk3? And I didn't think some of the platforms (Fota and Carrigaloe come to mind) could handle that length of a train.
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Unread 22-05-2008, 11:06   #10
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Cork area service disruptions, Thursday 22nd May, industrial action by Corporate Communications


UPDATE: 11.55hrs, Thursday 22nd May

Iarnród Éireann advises customers that a refusal by drivers based in Cork to work their normal rosters has potential to cause disruption to rail services in the Cork area.

The stoppage by drivers commenced following a refusal by a Cork-based driver to drive his train within his core roster this morning, to facilitate training of new trainee drivers.

Services currently affected are:

- 11.00hrs Heuston to Cork

- 12.00hrs Cork to Mallow

Bus transfers are arranged for these trains.

Regrettably, there is the potential for further significant disruption on other services to and from Cork. All other rail services are unaffected.

Full updated service information is available at www.irishrail.ie or 1850 366 222. Iarnród Éireann apologises to customers for the inconvenience caused.
http://www.irishrail.ie/news_centre/...ew&news_id=379
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Unread 22-05-2008, 11:15   #11
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Irish Rail don't have agreement on the supervision of trainee drivers, someone foolishly in the company seems to want to cause trouble instead of minimising it

The arrangement that is being pushed is the senior driver is responsible for everything while the trainee is driving, doesn't appear to be 100% fair now does it
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Unread 22-05-2008, 11:28   #12
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seems foolish to start this arrangement before aggreement was made, was progress on this issue not being made?

Also given the impact the original issue was having on other services what is the chance it could spread?

It doesn't seem fair
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Unread 22-05-2008, 11:43   #13
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Situation is that they tried to do some training in Cork this morning, this is voluntary anyway it appears, guy said no to taking the train out the issue seems to come before even the mentoring thing, he sent home, other guy in Dublin won't come back down until the first guy is back in work.

With the exception of the 11:00 all Dublin Cork seems to be ok
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Unread 22-05-2008, 11:46   #14
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Seems pretty stupid then for IE to brag that this could cause significant disruption to cork services.

If it is voluntary for the driver to do the training, why refuse to take the train out. Why just say no to the training?

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Cork area service disruptions, Thursday 22nd May, industrial action by Corporate Communications


UPDATE: 12.45hrs, Thursday 22nd May

Iarnród Éireann advises customers that a refusal by drivers based in Cork to work their normal rosters has potential to cause disruption to rail services in the Cork area.

The stoppage by drivers commenced following a refusal by a Cork-based driver to drive his train within his core roster this morning, to facilitate training of new trainee drivers.

Services currently affected are:

- 11.00hrs Heuston to Cork

- 13.30hrs Cork to Heuston

- Cork commuter services (Cork/Cobh, Cork/Mallow)

Bus transfers are being arranged for affected services.

The 12.00hrs Heuston to Cork operated; the 13.00hrs Heuston to Cork will operate to Mallow only, with bus transfers from Mallow to Cork.

Regrettably, there is the potential for further significant disruption on other services to and from Cork. All other rail services are unaffected.

Full updated service information is available at www.irishrail.ie or 1850 366 222. Iarnród Éireann apologises to customers for the inconvenience caused.
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Unread 22-05-2008, 12:25   #16
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updated again, does not look good

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Cork & Kerry area service disruptions, Thursday 22nd May, industrial action by Corporate Communications


UPDATE: 13.15hrs, Thursday 22nd May

Iarnród Éireann advises customers that a refusal by drivers based in Cork to work their normal rosters has potential to cause disruption to rail services in the Cork & Kerry areas.

The stoppage by drivers commenced following a refusal by a Cork-based driver to drive his train within his core roster this morning, to facilitate training of new trainee drivers.

Services currently affected are:

- 11.00hrs Heuston to Cork

- 13.30hrs Cork to Heuston

- Cork commuter services (Cork/Cobh, Cork/Mallow)

The 12.00hrs Heuston to Cork operated normally; the 13.00hrs Heuston to Cork will operate to Mallow only, with bus transfers from Mallow to Cork.

Regrettably, there is the potential for further significant disruption on other services to and from Cork and Kerry.

The following services are likely to be cancelled:

13.30hrs, 14.30hrs, 15.30hrs, 16.30hrs, 17.30hrs Cork to Heuston services

18.00hrs, 19.00hrs, 20.00hrs, 21.00hrs Heuston to Cork services

18.30hrs Heuston to Tralee



The following services are expected to operate, to and from Mallow only. Bus transfers will operate between Mallow and Cork.

14.00hrs, 15.00hrs, 16.00hrs 17.00hrs Heuston to Cork services 18.30hrs, 19.30hrs and 20.30hrs Cork to Heuston services

All other rail services on other routes are unaffected.
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Unread 22-05-2008, 12:35   #17
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A total of 6 Cork based staff have been struck off the payroll, that will increase steadily

Effectively there are no services into or out of Cork

The issue at hand is management asked to the pilot driver in Cork to take out a train with trainee drivers. Driver refused on the grounds that as pilot he operates only within Cork station
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Heuston should be fun tonight!

The media don't seem to be covering much.

Is there bus transfers planned for the cancelled services?
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Unread 22-05-2008, 12:55   #19
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Doesn't suprise me that the whole thing just happened too late for the 1pm news

Buses provided, however they aren't enough of them and the budget to pay for them has been exhausted
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This isn't good at all. What are the chances of this happening tomorrow morning.

On a personal note, my father is flying out of Dublin tomorrow afternoon and hoping to get the 10:30 train out of Cork.
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