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Unread 11-03-2014, 19:01   #1
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Is it possible to tell from the IE website which Cork trains are Mk4? I understand they are looking to reduce the number of sets in use and that some trains are Mk4 only at weekends
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Unread 11-03-2014, 19:04   #2
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The typical schedule currently on weekdays is:

07.00, 17.00, 18.00, 19.00 to Cork
06.00, 07.00. 10.20, 20.20 to Dublin

The 10.00, 12.00 and 13.20, 15.20 on Friday and Saturdays.
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What's the rationale for taking the sets out of use? It seems odd given they were designed for that route?
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What's the rationale for taking the sets out of use? It seems odd given they were designed for that route?
Cheaper to run a 3-car 22000 than a 7-car Mark 4.
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Cheaper to run a 3-car 22000 than a 7-car Mark 4.
No 3 car sets operate, 4/5/6 only however its cheaper to run smaller trains but charge people for seats which they don't usually get on plenty of services. The 14.00, 15.00 and 16.00 services usually exceed capacity even on quiet days.
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I don't have the details, but the number of Mk4 services has increased recently and at least one extra set has been brought back into service.

Also when 4-car ICR sets are rostered they are frequently supplemented by a 3-car or a second 4-car. So while there may be overcrowding at times (when wasn't there?), they seem to have adjusted things to meet increasing demand over the past year.

BTW capacity is as follows: M4 8 car 373 standard plus 44 first class.
5-car ICR 304, of which 32 are first class
4-car ICR 262
3-car ICR 190

So a 4+3 car ICR holds more than a Mk4. Remember the Mk4 has relatively little seating in the first 3 coaches (including none in the DVT).
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Cheaper to run a 3-car 22000 than a 7-car Mark 4.
All routes in Ireland should really be all Electrified by this stage be a lot cheaper. And upgrade all routes TGV style so we can have a decent high speed service. That certainly would reduce cars on the roads. Getting to places half and half that time
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