Smart Card Validation Machines

al2637 · 21-05-2009, 11:52

I agree, from a technical perspective integrated fares should just be a software upgrade once the hardware, infrastructure and processes are in place.

But moving Dublin to an integrarted fares system is about having a single entity which will set fares and zonal structures (for season tickets). Does the RPA (or DTA??

) have this authority?

I can see this turning into a total mess, different charges if you are travelling on a bus, or train or Luas... a myriad of ticket types etc etc

Can't help think this could have been a lot easier if they had of got the fares right first, then moved to smart cards.

Thomas Ralph · 21-05-2009, 12:48

There's a severe problem lying in wait for the concept of a stored-value card on Dublin Bus, namely the staged cash fares.

drumcondra commuter · 21-05-2009, 13:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Ralph

...namely the staged cash fares.

Maybe OT, but this is their chance to get rid of that bloody mess of a system.

al2637 · 21-05-2009, 13:36

What is the difficulty with the staged fares?

If we go down the route of base fare + km, then the bus still needs to know each stop it is at?

But yea, hopefully the current fare system should be torn up and replaced with one consistent accross all operators.

Thomas Ralph · 21-05-2009, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by al2637

What is the difficulty with the staged fares?

Tagging off.

ThomasJ · 21-05-2009, 14:40

In this case it needs to be somewhere clearly visable for passengers. For example at Clonsilla station there are 2 one at each exit and you cant really miss them. The problem though is could it hold up the mass exidus leaving the smaller stations at peak hours.

Also where would they placed for connolly? tara? pearse? or will they be attached to the entry/exit validation turnstiles?

Mark Gleeson · 21-05-2009, 14:59

Already built into the turnstiles, wave a luas or bus smartcard at the new IE gates for a nice bleep sound

21-05-2009, 14:59	#7
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Already built into the turnstiles, wave a luas or bus smartcard at the new IE gates for a nice bleep sound __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

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21-05-2009, 11:52	#1
al2637 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 191	I agree, from a technical perspective integrated fares should just be a software upgrade once the hardware, infrastructure and processes are in place. But moving Dublin to an integrarted fares system is about having a single entity which will set fares and zonal structures (for season tickets). Does the RPA (or DTA?? ) have this authority? I can see this turning into a total mess, different charges if you are travelling on a bus, or train or Luas... a myriad of ticket types etc etc Can't help think this could have been a lot easier if they had of got the fares right first, then moved to smart cards.

21-05-2009, 12:48	#2
Thomas Ralph IT Officer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greenwich, London Posts: 1,860	There's a severe problem lying in wait for the concept of a stored-value card on Dublin Bus, namely the staged cash fares.

21-05-2009, 13:36	#4
al2637 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 191	What is the difficulty with the staged fares? If we go down the route of base fare + km, then the bus still needs to know each stop it is at? But yea, hopefully the current fare system should be torn up and replaced with one consistent accross all operators.

21-05-2009, 14:40	#6
ThomasJ Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Clonsilla Posts: 2,812	In this case it needs to be somewhere clearly visable for passengers. For example at Clonsilla station there are 2 one at each exit and you cant really miss them. The problem though is could it hold up the mass exidus leaving the smaller stations at peak hours. Also where would they placed for connolly? tara? pearse? or will they be attached to the entry/exit validation turnstiles?