Ireland 2040 - Rail Elements.

[Ronald Binge]

Originally Posted by ACustomer

Ronald Binge:

So you would like a €3billion project to go ahead without any proper evaluation? If the answer is "no" then why indulge in ad hominem attacks on McCarthy? If the answer is "yes" then this is precisely the reckless attitude to spending public money that has left us with bad or no infrastructure.

Well it certainly has left us with neither Metro nor DART Underground.

Adds: Be fascinating to stack up the cost of unbuilt rail proposals from the DRRTS onwards. How much money was spaffed on the original design phase for Metro North and West, and the cost of the box at the Mater, for example? These are sunk costs but it seems very easy to blow money on plans that can get waved around and then buried for whole decades.

[Mark Gleeson]

Originally Posted by Ronald Binge

Well it certainly has left us with neither Metro nor DART Underground.

Adds: Be fascinating to stack up the cost of unbuilt rail proposals from the DRRTS onwards. How much money was spaffed on the original design phase for Metro North and West, and the cost of the box at the Mater, for example? These are sunk costs but it seems very easy to blow money on plans that can get waved around and then buried for whole decades.

We have spent close to 100 million on the planning for Metro North, West, DU, KRP2, Airport DART as well as some property acquisition.

Well you can throw in the entire Red Luas, that was the 'cheap' alternative to bringing the DART to Tallaght and Clondalkin

[ACustomer]

Mark, you could also throw in the new cross-city LUAS, which in many respects a cheapo substitute to Metro North most of the way to Finglas, and which may be "stranded" if the Metro North-South goes ahead. What a circus.

[Mark Gleeson]

Thats exactly it stop gap short term thinking