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Unread 02-11-2015, 12:48   #21
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Would be useless in Waterford to have loop 99% of the time, would settle for the second bay platform to be reopened.

North or ideally south of Lavistown would be more appreciate to have one if any consideration was given.
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Unread 02-11-2015, 17:32   #22
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Is the layout at Waterford West now so restricted that there is no way to cross 2 passenger trains at the West cabin? Surely just an extra crossover near W West would allow this. At present if a train departs the sole passenger platform for Kilkenny, the first crossing place seems to be Ballyhale, 15 miles away. Track simplification to a ridiculous degree if true.
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Is the layout at Waterford West now so restricted that there is no way to cross 2 passenger trains at the West cabin? Surely just an extra crossover near W West would allow this. At present if a train departs the sole passenger platform for Kilkenny, the first crossing place seems to be Ballyhale, 15 miles away. Track simplification to a ridiculous degree if true.
Yes.

The station is more less Dublin line into current platform, one set of points to access station yard and Belview followed by another set of points to access Limerick J line at Waterford West.

All trains staying overnight in Waterford/must move to allow another service in must drive beyond Waterford West Cabin and then drivers must switch sides and enter the station year/platform again.

As I say a crossing in Waterford would make shunting moments easier but not do a lot of passenger schedules where as another crossing after Ballyhale would.

Waterford-Ballyhale - 15.6 miles
Ballyhale-Kilkenny - 14.81 miles*
Muine Bheag-Kikenny - 14.86 miles*
* - Final 3 miles will require clearance of 5 minutes between each service running on that section.

The other loops on the line are 10/11/12 miles however they have higher speeds which offset distance.

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Unread 04-11-2015, 03:08   #24
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Actually all you need is a crossover remotely controlled from Waterford West togetger with appropriate signsls. ETS can stay where it is.
that's interesting - had considered a crossover at Dunkitt but thought the ETS issue a showstopper. Is there a practical distance limit between the ETS token being received and the start of the section it controls?
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No technical limit at all really, you just can't enter the single line without the token and the signals protecting the single line would be interlocked in such a way that they coiuldn't be cleared without the token having been released at the signal box controlling entry from the applicable end.

That was the arrangement at Waterford in respect of the Barrow Bridge/Wellington Bridge section of the line - you needed the token to proceed east of the signals protecting the Barrow Bridge but trains to/from Belview needed no token as the that area was within the Waterford station area of control. The ETS instrument was in Waterford Central. Yo similarly had Mallow for Killarney Junction, Drogheda for Platin and various others from time to time.
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Ah, should have remembered Belview worked like that. Thanks for the explanation!
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Far too much thread drift here.
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