Irish Rail web site

[Mark Gleeson]

Be 2011 at earliest, with the exception of Galway the entire Mini CTC operation is under local manual control so real time information isn't possible

[Mark Gleeson]

Originally Posted by ACustomer

3. If one enquires about, for example, Cork Departures (which I happened to do, coincidentally, like comcor), one gets information on Cork Arrivals as well, and information such as "A210 Dublin Heuston to Cork, Due 1050, ETA 1055". This omits the information which people might want: 0800 Departure time from Heuston. Typically people might want to know if the 8am from Dublin is on time or not, because that's the one that Grandma said she would be on.

Fixed

[plant43]

On a slightly unrelated note taxsaver.ie is down.

Anyone know how much the annual Newbridge-Heuston ticket is now? I have a vague recollection that it was 1770.

And do point to point tickets still not require a CIE ID, just a photo?

Thanks.

[Thomas Ralph]

Newbridge-Heuston is indeed €1,770 per year. Annual tickets issued by Iarnród Éireann require a digital photo which is printed onto the ticket (and will become a smartcard-based ticket soon). Annual tickets issued by Veolia and Dublin Bus and all monthly tickets require a separate ID, which is available at a nominal fee from Dublin Bus head office, most Dublin Bus ticket agents, and major railway stations.

[Colm Moore]

RealTime Train Info is acting up since last night. Was reporting "PLEASE ENTER A VALID STATION NAME ABOVE" for Waterford line stations. Now saying that for all stations.

[Mark Gleeson]

No one has programmed in the new timetable, its gotten confused!

[Mark Gleeson]

It back working again

[finnyus]

Booking single tickets for my parents from Cork - Westport tomorrow morning, website prices are a bit confusing:

Details:
Cork - Portarlington 05:05 07:22 InterCity
Portarlington - Wesport 08:15 11:00 InterCity

When I click on the € (Euro) Symbol, it states Adult €68.50

But when I click on the "Check Price" at the end of the page it states Adult €20.

[Mark Gleeson]

Check price is correct. Its summing the two 10 euro discount fares.

The other is quoting the standard fare for the journey as it has no discount for that combination.

The price is confirmed later in the process

[finnyus]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

...

The other is quoting the standard fare for the journey as it has no discount for that combination.

...

Should it not state the €20 for the € symbol as well? When I saw the €68.50, I said to myself that I would just be better off driving them up. I just clicked on the "Check Price" to see if would be any different.

[Mark Gleeson]

It should say 20 as well. Previously the system would not have given the 20 euro quote at all.

[ccos]

Is there 10 euro one way tickets between Dublin and Cork? and if yes how do I get them and when are they valid?

[Thomas Ralph]

Yes there are. You can book them online at http://www.irishrail.ie. They are only available on specific trains, namely 1100, 1400, and 2100 from Heuston to Cork, 1130, 1330, and 2030 from Cork to Heuston, Monday to Saturday (excluding the 1100, 1330 and 1400 services on Fridays), and the 0810 from Heuston to Cork on Sunday. Exclusions apply on days of major events (read rugby/GAA/soccer matches in Croke Park) and around holiday periods.

Besides the above there are €20 single fares off-peak and €36 peak.

Tickets need to be booked at least one hour before departure of the train. The 1130 Cork-Heuston tends to be fully reserved several days in advance.

[ccos]

Thanks, I was looking and could only find the 20 euro ones, I´ll have a look for the cheaper ones now I know where they are

[Oisin88]

Can anyone spot the contradiction in this "realtime" info for Heuston, 2 minutes ago?

Realtime Results for Dublin Heuston - 13:12 RSS feed for Dublin Heuston
Journey Service Sch ETA Due In Latest Information
A211 - 10:30 - Cork to Dublin Heuston 13:23 13:36 24 Mins Departed Sallins
A711 - 11:05 - Galway to Dublin Heuston 13:40 13:42 30 Mins Departed Cherryville Junction
A509 - 11:00 - Waterford to Dublin Heuston 13:30 13:49 37 Mins Departed Kildare
A216 - 14:00 - Dublin Heuston to Cork 14:00 14:00 48 Mins

[Mark Gleeson]

Trains travelling longer distances taking less time point to point

Cherryville Vs Kildare

The system doesn't always update, so the location you see is the last confirmed point on the system and it projects ahead from there

We have proposed a modification such that

Arrived Cherrvillle Junc at xx:xx

This was accepted as a good idea by the crew in charge and hopefully will be implemented in the coming weeks

[Oisin88]

I am sitting on the Galway train, which is obviously being held up by the Waterford one. We keep slowing, stopping and starting.

The realtime info is still saying that we will pass out the Waterford train and arrive in Heuston 1 minute ahead of it! Expecting to see a bit of a drag race on the 4 track! Passed Hazelhatch just now.

[Oisin88]

they have now passed us (on the virtual system)

Funny thing is, the signal should have known we were behind them from Cherryville Junction, and so shoudl have delayed our expected arrival time by the 10 minutes at that point. This would have allowed us to tell people not to rush etc., if we were being collected, and that sort of thing. Also, ringing ahead to make other type of arrangements would be facilitated.

The PPARs people must have designed the signalling system for them!

[Mark Gleeson]

The system projects based on where you are and the staff timetable journey time for that train to the point of interest

If you are following a delayed stopping train, the Waterford one which stops Kildare and Newbridge it can't work it out. We are in regular contact with the manager behind the system, it is new, it clearly states that its not very good between Hazelhatch and Dublin.

The ability to understand the causal relationship between trains and delays is not easy, again its been raised with respect to if a DART to Howth is delayed arriving its departure will be as well

[Oisin88]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

, it is new, it clearly states that its not very good between Hazelhatch and Dublin.

It improved in accuracy between the Hatch and Heuston. In fact the padding helped both trains knock about 5 minutes off their predicted arrival time. The wierd stuff happened when it failed to realise that the Galway train was behind the late Waterford train from Cherryville.

What is Irish Rails policy on priority for late trains? It seems to be a "try and catch up as much as possible for the timing stats", rather than, "a let the trains that are on time stay on time and fit the late one in." Or maybe it depends on the fat controller on the day!