2011 Proposed Timetable - Heuston Based Services

[ACustomer]

Ceannt is a.k.a Galway, Kent is Cork. Really user-friendly for tourists.

[dowlingm]

Originally Posted by CSL

Is it even worth asking about an earlier outbound 0600 Heuston-Cork ? If you want to do business in Limerick or Cork and get the train you won't get in before 0905 into Colbert, and around 1000 into Ceannt

If the 0615 Heuston-Portlaoise was extended that might help but that's only 30mins better than the 0700 departure as the 0615 stops many times on the way to Portlaoise (not to mention that the currently booked train presumably turns back for Dublin). Also, it would arrive at Limerick Junction somewhere around 0820 which until additional platform capacity is constructed is quite a busy time in that neighbourhood.

[Thomas Ralph]

Originally Posted by ACustomer

Ceannt is a.k.a Galway, Kent is Cork. Really user-friendly for tourists.

To be honest, I doubt any tourists would recognize Ceannt and Kent as the same name. Whether they'd be able to pronounce it is another matter

[Thomas J Stamp]

early train to Cork has been called for by everone of the still existing user groups on the line and it also is in line with the notion of a proper two hourly/every hour rail system.

we ahve been banging heads about the same situation on the Enterprise and we have had a lot of support from Cross Border Bodies as well as IBEC, Unions, Chambers of Commerce. I would imagine it being some sort of election demand too from various parties.

Im my own opinion, the usual trodden out nonesense from IE regarding lack of capacity/paths/demand are solvable, and dont take a bucket of money to do so.

There really ought to be one arrival from Dublin to Galway/Limerick/Cork/Belfast between 8 and 9 am. Saying that the current patterens are a block is no excuse. Irish Rail had fronted this piecemeal timetable adjustment in the last year or so by vaguely speaking about a year-zero option. That is what is needed. This toe in the water stuff is no solution at all.

[Mark Gleeson]

Believe it or not the current staff timetable assigns id A202 to the 7:00 Dublin Cork (i.e. out of normal sequence), which suggests that they actually planned to have a 6:00 Dublin Cork (A200) and pulled back

We might not get it this year but as of end 2011 there will be a pile of trains available to make these things happen

06:00 to Cork is special since you get there before 9 but also get a commuter service from Munster to Cork and Limerick into the bargain

[Ron Burgundy]

is there any rough date when a decision on these changes will be made, the 16:25 stopping Portarlington will give me a life again if it goes ahead !

[Jamie2k9]

Last updated on 1 Feb.

They have changed the 07:43 - Portlaois - Heuston

[Jamie2k9]

From Saturday 25th June to Saturday 27th August, an 08.50 service will operate from
Limerick to Heuston between, serving Limerick Jctn. (09.20) and Thurles (09.40),
arriving into Heuston at 11.00.

From the draft timetable. Anybody know why it only operates for two months.

[hoopsheff]

still no train from Heuston to Hazehatch between 17.15 and 18.05 ...u'd never believe thats peak travel time!!

why oh why can they not provide a proper commuter service as far as kildare....even if its just for peak times

seems like a waste of more public in doing up the line to have 4 tracks if they are not properly utilised (or even utilised at all)

[Mark Gleeson]

Originally Posted by Jamie2k9

From the draft timetable. Anybody know why it only operates for two months.

Seriously large flows of passengers during Summer towards Dublin. Similar train ran last year

Release capacity also off a busy Cork Dublin service as well. There are overcrowding issues on the 7:15 Tralee Dublin and 9:30 Cork Dublin

[Jamie2k9]

Consultation for Heuston & regional draft schedules ends tomorrow: let us know your views http://bit.ly/fKAFfn Connolly routes coming soon
about 15 hours ago via Seesmic Desktop

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[dowlingm]

Originally Posted by Mark Gleeson

06:00 to Cork is special since you get there before 9 but also get a commuter service from Munster to Cork and Limerick into the bargain

If it got to Thurles smartly (before any conflict with the 0730 to Limerick) then there's your Limerick connection. With a stop it could replace it but that would reduce the attractiveness of the Thurles service since it's no-change at the Junction at present.

[Mark Gleeson]

Arrival Thurles would be 7:15am so nice connection there

[Kilocharlie]

Originally Posted by hoopsheff

still no train from Heuston to Hazehatch between 17.15 and 18.05 ...u'd never believe thats peak travel time!!

why oh why can they not provide a proper commuter service as far as kildare....even if its just for peak times

seems like a waste of more public in doing up the line to have 4 tracks if they are not properly utilised (or even utilised at all)

Not just Hazelhatch; Kildare is similar if slightly better 1725->1805->1840.

I don't think any serious improvement will be possible until the new 22Ks, 19 3-car sets, being to arrive later this year and, even then, the additional costs might not be justified. But given that there will be sufficient rolling stock, the opportunity to improve the service will present. 2 extra sets would help fill the gaps at peak times.

[Ron Burgundy]

Originally Posted by Jamie2k9

Last updated on 1 Feb.

They have changed the 07:43 - Portlaois - Heuston

What changes have been made ?

[Kilocharlie]

Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy

What changes have been made ?

Now stops at Cherry Orchard/Park West

[Jamie2k9]

The new timetable has been put back again and will not start until 8 May at the earliest.

[Kilocharlie]

New 2011 Heuston Timetables published. Valid from 8th May

http://irishrail.ie/your_journey/201...timetables.asp

[dowlingm]

I haven't checked these but a poster on IRN notes the following changes:

- Additional Kildare Commuter services (MF) at: 1940 Heuston / Kildare, 0832 Newbridge - Heuston, 2045 Kildare - Heuston.
- 0550 Portarlington - Heuston now starts from Portlaoise at 0540 (It comes empty from the depot so why it never started in Portlaoise was very odd).
- 1625 Heuston - Limerick calls additionally at Monastervin and Portarlington.
- New Summer Only and as required at other times 0900 Limerick - Heuston via Limerick Jct to provide relief to the 0720 Tralee - Heuston.
- The Friday Only 1706 Athlone - Galway Bus Transfer is now operated by a train. Passengers still have to change and this is noted in thr timetabled.
- Late WRC services at 2015 Ennis - Galway (1930 ex Limerick) and 1830 Galway - Ennis (connection to Limerick). These additional services are worked by the 3ICR off the 1530 Heuston - Galway.
- Improved connections at Athenry into Dublin and WRC services.
- 0630 Cork - Tralee now runs on Saturday again and replaces an ety stock movement.

[Mark Gleeson]

Basically no changes really