0545 ex Sligo - Freezing Cold

joey · 03-02-2014, 19:11

No heating on the 0545 from Sligo to Connolly this morning absolutely freezing cold for the whole journey.
Requested it that it would be turned on, but was told it could not be controlled on the train?? How bizarre is that!!

Mark Gleeson · 04-02-2014, 11:19

Usual excuses, the big switch in the cab on the left of the driver is hard to miss

joey · 04-02-2014, 13:13

I was told by staff it was controlled in DUNDALK!!
not on the train, unbelievable!

Mark Gleeson · 04-02-2014, 14:08

To the left of the driver on the wall is a set of switches which turn on and off the lights and heating.

The train computer does report in and in theory it is possible to change the temperature remotely, that data goes to Portlaoise.

Experience has shown that selecting the heating off and then on again can help

Jamie2k9 · 04-02-2014, 14:39

Possible to change the temperature but are drivers allowed do this and do many of them know about it, would something like this be in the training for the 22?

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No heating on the 0545 from Sligo to Connolly this morning absolutely freezing cold for the whole journey.
Requested it that it would be turned on, but was told it could not be controlled on the train?? How bizarre is that!!

Was the engine running in the carriage? if not very little heat is transferred from the other coaches and best to move in future if it was the case there was no engine running.

James Howard · 05-02-2014, 16:59

I've been told that Dundalk story before on a 29K so it must be one guy's go-to excuse. I was on that train on Monday and I didn't notice. I was sitting in the second car from the back.

joey · 05-02-2014, 18:24

I was in the middle esh. Where the three and four car set joined together

James Howard · 05-02-2014, 19:15

It was a 3+4 set and I think the three was leading.

Jamie2k9 · 05-02-2014, 19:18

The Dundalk and Portlaoise depot excuse as people call it are technically correct, as there is probably a big chance half the drivers don't want to interfere with the temperatures settings, unable to do it or have being told one time or another not to or log a note about it and somebody else will change it.

Not turning it on is a different matter or there is the very slim chance it actually wasn't working for some reason.

berneyarms · 05-02-2014, 19:31

The drivers can switch the heating on and off but they cannot adjust the temperature.

That is set at the depot (Dundalk or Portlaoise) and is computer controlled.

joey · 06-02-2014, 13:19

What a marvelous design to our wonderful fleet of new trains, where the heating temperature cannot be set onboard, incredible!

Inniskeen · 06-02-2014, 14:23

No depot in Dundalk !

berneyarms · 06-02-2014, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Inniskeen

No depot in Dundalk !

What was I thinking?

Drogheda is what I meant!!!

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Originally Posted by joey

What a marvelous design to our wonderful fleet of new trains, where the heating temperature cannot be set onboard, incredible!

Fairly standard I would suggest - either on or off.

grainne whale · 06-02-2014, 16:42

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Originally Posted by joey

What a marvelous design to our wonderful fleet of new trains, where the heating temperature cannot be set onboard, incredible!

You could bring your own plug in heater.

Colm Moore · 06-02-2014, 17:02

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Originally Posted by joey

What a marvelous design to our wonderful fleet of new trains, where the heating temperature cannot be set onboard, incredible!

This is the correct way to do things. Set the temperature at 16-21 degrees and let the computer work out what it needs. Increasing or decreasing that setting means that people with coats are too hot and those without are too cold.

Not turning on the system is a whole other matter.

joey · 06-02-2014, 20:36

For what its worth Im busted now with the flu, I'll have a few days off at my own expense...

The heating was simply not on, never mind about temperature settings, it just wasn't on at all. I mean 5.45am and it was minus two in the shade, fairly plain to see that heating was required.

James Howard · 07-02-2014, 07:46

It must have been a failure in part of the train which does happen from time to time most like because the engine wasn't running. There was definitely heat in the second last car on Monday morning.

The approach of just setting a thermostat and blocking on-board staff from fiddling with it is definitely the right way to go as long as the system works.

joey · 07-02-2014, 19:07

1800 ex Sligo to Dublin, good news is the heating is on!!

Passenger numbers are good aswell, fairly busy but still a couple of seats spare in the coach I am in. The 9.99€ seems to be working well for IR

Traincustomer · 07-02-2014, 20:09

Hope you're back on form. An early-morning train devoid of heat can't have been pleasant. Have had a similar bus experience but not rail (well, not yet).

03-02-2014, 19:11	#1
joey Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Coach A Posts: 188	0545 ex Sligo - Freezing Cold No heating on the 0545 from Sligo to Connolly this morning absolutely freezing cold for the whole journey. Requested it that it would be turned on, but was told it could not be controlled on the train?? How bizarre is that!! Last edited by joey : 03-02-2014 at 22:25.

04-02-2014, 11:19	#2
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	Usual excuses, the big switch in the cab on the left of the driver is hard to miss __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

04-02-2014, 14:08	#4
Mark Gleeson Technical Officer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coach C, Seat 33 Posts: 12,669	To the left of the driver on the wall is a set of switches which turn on and off the lights and heating. The train computer does report in and in theory it is possible to change the temperature remotely, that data goes to Portlaoise. Experience has shown that selecting the heating off and then on again can help __________________ Unhappy with new timetable - let us know

07-02-2014, 19:07	#18
joey Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Coach A Posts: 188	1800 ex Sligo to Dublin, good news is the heating is on!! Passenger numbers are good aswell, fairly busy but still a couple of seats spare in the coach I am in. The 9.99€ seems to be working well for IR Last edited by joey : 07-02-2014 at 19:11.

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04-02-2014, 13:13	#3
joey Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Coach A Posts: 188	I was told by staff it was controlled in DUNDALK!! not on the train, unbelievable!

05-02-2014, 16:59	#6
James Howard Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sligo Line Posts: 1,115	I've been told that Dundalk story before on a 29K so it must be one guy's go-to excuse. I was on that train on Monday and I didn't notice. I was sitting in the second car from the back.

05-02-2014, 18:24	#7
joey Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Coach A Posts: 188	I was in the middle esh. Where the three and four car set joined together

05-02-2014, 19:15	#8
James Howard Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sligo Line Posts: 1,115	It was a 3+4 set and I think the three was leading.

05-02-2014, 19:18	#9
Jamie2k9 Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,146	The Dundalk and Portlaoise depot excuse as people call it are technically correct, as there is probably a big chance half the drivers don't want to interfere with the temperatures settings, unable to do it or have being told one time or another not to or log a note about it and somebody else will change it. Not turning it on is a different matter or there is the very slim chance it actually wasn't working for some reason.

05-02-2014, 19:31	#10
berneyarms Really Regular Poster Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 602	The drivers can switch the heating on and off but they cannot adjust the temperature. That is set at the depot (Dundalk or Portlaoise) and is computer controlled.

06-02-2014, 13:19	#11
joey Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Coach A Posts: 188	What a marvelous design to our wonderful fleet of new trains, where the heating temperature cannot be set onboard, incredible!

06-02-2014, 14:23	#12
Inniskeen Really Regular Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 951	No depot in Dundalk !

06-02-2014, 20:36	#16
joey Regular Poster Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Coach A Posts: 188	For what its worth Im busted now with the flu, I'll have a few days off at my own expense... The heating was simply not on, never mind about temperature settings, it just wasn't on at all. I mean 5.45am and it was minus two in the shade, fairly plain to see that heating was required.

07-02-2014, 07:46	#17
James Howard Really Really Regluar Poster Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sligo Line Posts: 1,115	It must have been a failure in part of the train which does happen from time to time most like because the engine wasn't running. There was definitely heat in the second last car on Monday morning. The approach of just setting a thermostat and blocking on-board staff from fiddling with it is definitely the right way to go as long as the system works.

07-02-2014, 20:09	#19
Traincustomer Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ar an traein Posts: 602	Hope you're back on form. An early-morning train devoid of heat can't have been pleasant. Have had a similar bus experience but not rail (well, not yet).