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![]() Read this very carefully
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![]() Note Tuam is a no go until it has been planned and reviewed
Galway commuter seems to be tied to Tuam No mention of Oranmore |
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![]() Baseline looking at 12 months to do that and another 12 to do the work, planning permission etc takes time. Wouldn't matter the signalling guys are tied up till end 2007 anyway on other projects
IE have a outline scheme, basically they know what bridges will have to go It could open December 2008 if they are lucky which is within the T21 timeline |
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![]() Its really just an extension of the Ennis service to Galway (Or just to Athenry with a connection?) Cant see 2008 opening though, early to mid 2009 perhaps.
We know IE will be fairly stringent with the analysis of further lines, especially north of Tuam. Looks like Oranmore is phase 2/3? Or separate project altogether, requires private developer investment. |
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![]() How long ago was Middleton given this type of approval?
Does this not mean commuter services? Quote:
below are some observations from the drivers seat of a car from Oranmore into Galway ( where the commuter service would hafta run. My sis lives in Galway. She was looking into the development plans for the east of the city. the city and county have carved up the land from the galwayClinic roundabout back towards Oranmore i.e. from Dubhuisce and Roscam out, with a "green belt" ( or Merlin park hospital as it's now known) inside these estates. There is a triangle between Roscam the N6 Dway and the train line ripe for levying and providing a commuter station either at the oranmore end, or the roscam end. There's a LC at the end of the Roscam road, but it could be painlessly be closed fullstop to stop a ratrun or a new road built parallel with the tracks east to the old N6 bridge. This is manned at the minute ( swing type gates) I guess it depends on how much the city and county councils care about developing this. The two other LC's on the Ennis Athenry I can think of off the top of my head are Craughwell and Ardrahan. on not to be main roads for much longer, I don't know the policy of replacing these, Craughwell would be difficult as the LC is very near the town, Ardrahan would be possible, its at the bottom of a dip as you leave the village towards Galway. What talk of stations are there? I presume Gort and then vaguely possibly Craughwell or Crusheen if someone'll pay for them? |
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![]() Galway CC have a list of 3 stations on the line as well as Oranmore and Merlin Park is mentioned as being served
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![]() LOL! Great to have freinds in high places. I just gave her a call to say thanks for the tip off yesterday and got some more details. North of Athenry is history - DEAD IN THE WATER. The Government is refusing to fund it under any circumstances for at least 10 years. They (Government) have placed such strict criteria on Galway CoCo that no way will they present a business case for reopening the line north of Athenry unless a major change in planning and population settlement in East Galway is undertaken. There is a war within the Government over this, with Galway/Mayo parish pump merchants are being told to basically get their house in order if they want trains to Tuam and further north.
Anyone who thinks a train is going to operate to Tuam between now and 2020 are living on the wrong planet or possible in Bury Saint Edmonds. Common sense prevailed finally and this crackpot idea to reopen a tramway from Sligo to Limerick is finally put to bed for a couple of decades at least. Maybe Ireland is not such a banana republic afterall.
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![]() There are 2 automatic crossings on the main LK GY road around Gort, presumably when the gort and oranmore bypasses are built these crossings will be dealt with.
As a side note whats the journey time Ennis-Dublin via Atherny? Does it compare well to Ennis-3 sides of Limerick city-limerick Junction-Dublin? |
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![]() Here is the actuall text http://www.transport.ie/viewitem.asp...g=ENG&loc=1887
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![]() I live in Sixmilebrodge, have I just read that we are getting a station fairly soon, or am I dreaming??
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![]() Date: 26th September 2006
From: Derek Wheeler, Communications and Media Office, Platform 11. Contact : (086) 3452651 Issued by: Platform 11. The National Rail Users Organisation. “Announcement of WRC reopening “ The announcement of the phased reopening of the Western Rail Corridor (WRC) by the Minister for Transport, Martin Cullen, has been noted by Platform 11, the National Rail Users Organisation. While Platform 11 is not supportive of the short-term reopening of this route, Communications and Media Officer, Derek Wheeler said,” we accept that current Government policy is committed to it. As a representation body for rail users, we look forward to representing future users of the first phase between Limerick and Athenry and the long overdue commuter services between Athenry and Galway.” Platform 11, through it’s experience in representing rail users, believes that, due to poor Government decisions and disappointing management, the rail network is still an area of concern to the many customers using it on a daily basis. While Irish Rail have endeavoured to improve their customer service standards, they are still well below standards provided by other European rail operators. Mr. Wheeler added that, “Platform 11 anticipates that this poor standard will be very apparent on the reopened section of line between Ennis and Athenry and on new commuter services between Athenry and Galway.” While campaigners for the reopening of the Western Rail Corridor celebrate the success of achieving the first phase, Platform 11 is already preparing for the inevitable onslaught of complaints that will flow, once the first section becomes operational. Despite massive investment in our rail network, Derek Wheeler said,” this is the sad reality of rail services in 21st century Ireland.” |
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![]() Ardrahan and Craughwell... the former is a joke and the latter, well all I hope is that a LOT more houses have been built since I was there last three years ago. Ardrahan - another Woodlawn...
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![]() All you need is a proper station in Gort with 2 platforms and a decent car park
But this is Ireland and you must stop and every little one horse town to the determent of attractiveness of the service 1% reduction in journey time results in a greater than 1% gain in revenue |
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![]() If the two new stations were tied in with development I wouldnt have such scepticism but I havent heard any mention of it. Gort and Oranmore should be first phase/opening phase and any further stations subject to planning and levies.
No talk yet of the link to Shannon - and I mean the town not the airport cos we all know the town needs it more than the airport but two birds one stone etc. |
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I'd estimate in Sixmilebridge there are about 1000 houses within 10 minutes walk of the old station, however they are all to one side and there is a green belt of agri land between the old station and village so there is lots of scope for more high density development all around the station. |
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![]() Word on the ground indicates Shannon rail link highly unlikely
Current proposal for a spur makes the journey extremely long, the better option is a full blown deviation which would effectively mean a whole new line which clearly isn't a goer International experience suggests that you need to provide a rail service every 15 minutes to capture serious business at a airport, 7 or 8 trains a day won't really cut it, now if you had a bus serving the Airport, Shannon town and Sixmilebridge you might be able to come up with a good compromise with side benefits The real question to ask is what are the commuting patterns in Limerick, Clare and Galway then you would know where the demand is |
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The commuting pattern question is important since the rail service has to match the demands of the area, the WRC people have a fantasy that people will do Claremorris Galway, unlikely, do we want to faciliate people in Tuam working in Galway or should the money go into suburbs in Galway which are badly served and where the population levels are such that it might work, last thing you want is Dublin style 30 mile+ commutes |
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